Wednesday, August 04, 2010

It's Going to Rock your World

Dog Poet Transmitting.......

War is looming and might be only one week away. I say this to put it in perspective. It stands to reason that it will surely happen before the November elections, for a variety of reasons. We know its coming because the chief drumbeaters are lunatics, drunk on megalomania and other hormonally secreted drugs.

We see the image of Israel attacking Iran but I do not think we clearly see the implications of it and how it will change our lives in profound ways. The Straits of Hormuz will be shut down and the oil companies will make a large fortune from skyrocketing prices. It goes without saying that Israel will probably attack Lebanon and Syria at the same time. I get the oddest feeling that Russia, China, Turkey and Iran have been talking on the back porch. There are all kinds of interplay going on that we are not privy to. Georgia is going to get crushed if she makes the same stupid mistake again. I realize it is at the aggressor’s behest to close the tunnels.

I get the distinct feeling that if Israel could take any one thing back it would be this ruinous assault on Iran. As you can see, I am discussing it as a fait accompli but I realize nothing is certain. Like the rest of you I have a sort of world view in my head that has been formed from news reports, theories and whatever comes before my eyes. This world view is interesting because it’s not real. It’s projection. This is true for nearly all of us. I have begun to see very clearly that I have this construct in my head about how and sometimes, when; this or that is going to go down. But it’s not real. I simply do not know and I’m in the midst of clearing all of it out of my head because I am misinforming myself. I’m surprised I didn’t see it before, this big picture, like a jigsaw puzzle, imperfectly put together.

I’m noticing things inside and outside of me that I haven’t noticed before and which make up the consistency and content of my days. Digressing.

Well, that said, let me go back to what I was saying (grin). An attack on Iran will nearly immediately become something larger than we generally imagine. All sorts of predisposed positions will come about. There will be a fury and uproar around the world as Israel, in defiance of the needs of everyone around them across the globe, reduces the world to an angst-ridden state of need and in some cases, emergency. The interruption in the flow of oil will hit on all sorts of levels besides transportation and manufacturing. In the meantime, China and Russia have huge investments in Iran so you would think it logical that they have armed Iran in certain ways that may not be a matter of public discussion.

Another thing that will happen is that an attack will launch dozens and dozens of violent events in those places where the aggressors are invested. Iraq and Afghanistan will go wild. The madness this would visit on the American and British people can’t be calculated. It will be no time to be in the wrong city. For some reason I think of Phoenix and Chicago because of a number of Trifecta like possibilities. It won’t be LA or New York, not in any large way because of the obvious. This coming false flag- and they have to have one- is likely to be way past whatever happened on 9/11.

I’ve been hearing about how many of the Israeli embassies are hot with nuclear tells. It’s possible they have things like this secreted in major cities around the world, which would explain a lot. Still, though I don’t know, isn’t it hard to conceal such a device if you can pick up the radiation; however they do it, in the embassies?

With this one event, the world will be turned upside down and stood on its head. There is no real or justifiable reason for it. It is the enormity of an ever growing hubris which says, “We can do anything we want, whenever we want to.” Hundreds of missiles are going to be flying through the air and even the deepest intelligence can miss certain things that might be hidden by an ally and then revealed in a moment of need. I get a strong feeling about this as I do about the 10th but I have been consistently wrong at this sort of thing.

Even those of us who are relatively free of the brainwashing, still have that mocked up world view in our heads. We don’t see the snowcapped mountains of Iran, her bustling cities and people engaging in all kinds of things; normal human pursuits. The sheer psychopathic audacity of launching an attack on one more nation after having instigated the last two ‘and’ the domestic terror event that made those wars possible, using the military of other countries to do it, is beyond outrageous. Furthermore, there’s no reason for this. I think Iran has already some nuclear capability from Russia or China and that it waits for the assault with intention to use it if it happens; when it happens.

It shocks me when I look right at it. It stuns me that cooler heads do not see the position that Israel is putting the entire world into. They have aptly named themselves as a mad dog. America’s military bases in the region will all come under attack. Suicidal war will flare in Georgia. There is no telling which way the dominoes will fall but fall they will; many, many dominoes.

With petrol quickly running out for non military uses, the trucks that bring food into the cities will be halted. Residents will panic and buy up everything in sight, which leaves empty stores and no clear idea of when transport resumes. I’m just speculating here but it seems possible. I once read a report that said if the power went off in New York City; half the residents would be dead in 3 days. That sounds absurd but they had a cogent argument for it and I’ve never forgotten it. Most of us have no idea how quickly and irreversibly things can change.

We move through our days, occupied with ordinary things, traveling to work and then back home, out to dinner or a club. It’s a surface operation beneath which lies this coming war, which we will feel vibrating in the Earth beneath our feet. The whole world will be affected. Russia and China have billions invested in Iran. There is no evidence whatsoever of nuclear weapon development. Extraordinary pressures are coming down on the members of the Security Council. How can they even conceive of this? What particular black magic does Israel possess to compel other countries to shoot themselves in the leg and then pay for the medical costs, while at the same time offering more money to Israel, in case we inconvenienced them with our self injury on their behalf?

Everyone is watching and waiting over there. Israel’s acceptance of an inquiry into the flotilla murders is very disturbing. They seldom if ever cooperate with such things. It’s as if they are assured it will not come to term because of... something else. They really do have that ubermensch thing going on. This doesn’t have to happen. I can only hope they get caught red handed in the act of this false flag they’re planning on. If they were caught by the right people in a very public way it would be of immense good for everyone. Unfortunately, for whatever the reason, their security companies guard a great many high risk facilities. Who would put them in charge of these things after what they have done, including 9/11 and The Liberty attacks?

I’m hoping some hidden hand comes forth and backslaps them into surprised amazement. There is something they are doing behind the scenes that accounts for their power to violate every tenant of human decency on a daily basis. I don’t know if it is economic, weapons related or reverse Kabala Boys playing with cosmic forces. Whatever it is it must be impressive or maybe its just that they were really good at insuring only the most corrupt politicians got into office, while compromising them with boys or girls during their de rigueur visit to the Unholy Land.

Sooner or later something is going to go horribly wrong for them. I can only hope it comes expeditiously and with a hammering that reverberates around the world. They need to be shocked senseless so that for years after they experience tiny shudders of nascent fear. Putting aside my world view mind canvas and looking directly at this situation, I find it very hard to believe that they are now intent on attacking a third country with the same lies they used to attack the last two. Across America their sympathizers are speaking and writing transparent lies that a dumbed down public swallows whole without mastication of any kind. Whenever and however, this event is going to rock your world.

End Transmission.......

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Mister_Ed said...

I’m not sure you’ll like my speculation as to what particular black magic is at hand, as I can’t help but wax biblical on this, but what the hell: I believe one (or more) of the Rothschild historic heavy-hitters was (is) the antichrist. What’s an “antichrist”? Well, gee…someone who could make the 50-million odd things that could have gone wrong with the 9-11 false flag not go wrong? Or, as you so aptly put it, “a reverse Kabalah boy”?

People ought to research good ol’ Mayer Amschel--learn a little about his life; how he came from absolutely nothing (a ghetto where Jews were miserably disenfranchised by surrounding anti-Semite Frankfurters) only to "die" sixty years later richer than all the kings of Europe. I don't think there's a comparative "reversal of fortune" in all of human history. And why antichrist? Well, what did he do with his largess? Founded wars. Founded mercenary Hessian armies who fought against the Americans in the revolution--founded both sides of the Napoleonic wars. Literally became ultra-wealthy off trading on human death. To me, that's worse than Vlad the Impaler (research him, too--you'll find Vlad was painted-up as being a threat to discourage Ottomans from entering Hungary).

And where do the occult symbols on our money come from? Thaumaturgy. They are thaumaturgic symbols--magician's symbols. And were they put on earlier coins throughout the ages? Absolutely. And what did Mayer Amschel Rothschild collect all his life after starting with a similar collection from his father? Rare coins. Rare coins with similar symbols dating back hundreds of years, if not longer.

Hand me my tin-hat if you care to, but I really don’t think the motherfucker ever died.

estebanfolsom said...


let's stop them
we know who
they are
and where

we know what
their up to

but i still can't
figure out why

they would commit suicide
and try to take a few of us
out with them

do they really think
they will survive
as a nation
as a people
there are two ways
to deal with a mad dog
one is to shoot it

and i'm pretty sure
the other is not
to try to
reason with it

let's stop them
i wish i knew how

Visible said...

Mr. Ed

You might be right. I spent a good twenty years in the study of the arcane and metaphysics and the possibilities are immense for both the good and bad.

Some people are bone deep evil. He was one of them.

Anonymous said...

There are many Iranian tourists here in Siam. They are easy to spot due their humble and courteous disposition. To add, I must say they are generally a very good looking race.

If one chooses to enter into polite conversation some will very openly express their distain for President Ahmadinejad. Just as you and I may for Blair or Bush (Obama, Brown, . . . . .)

They eat toast and drink coffee. They smoke cigarettes and drink wine. They kiss their mothers and children and make love to their wife’s and girlfriends. They go to watch movies . . . . Hollywood shit I wouldn't watch for free. They have jobs and take vacations . . . . here in Siam. They are not Arabs.

Now if one happens to stop at a bar frequented by British or American expats/tourists then one could be lead to believe that they are bad people. Yes, it has become a common refrain over the past few months to hear barstool pundits stating with surety that Iranians are bad; Pakistanis are also bad. Indians used to be bad but they are now good.

There is a lot of support amongst the sheeple to open the gates of hell. And my bottom lip just keeps getting worse!


Visible said...

*What did I tell you.

You can bet they have more than 4.

Deborah said...

Flashback: Radiation Hot Spots and NYC Israeli Embassy
just sayin'.............

chuckyman said...

When we see an article like this from Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, we know time is short.

I read another site musing on the 10th as being a really bad day for humanity. Guess I need to start wearing the ‘factor 6 million’ sun block for a while.

Anonymous said...

Iran's Ahmadinejad unhurt after blast near motorcade
04 Aug 2010 10:57:46 GMT
Source: Reuters

"On Monday, during a speech to a conference of expatriate Iranians in Tehran, Ahmadinejad said he believed he was the target of an assassination plot by Israel. "The stupid Zionists have hired mercenaries to assassinate me," he said."

I have nothing to say, other than...
I hear the rumble and feel the rocking.

Love and peace to you all

Anonymous said...

“It will be no time to be in the wrong city.”

Anyone here live in the West? Anywhere in the West. Got a mall or two nearby? Got Israeli Defense Force graduates staffing stalls in your mall selling Dead Sea mud cosmetics? Plastic Zoomcopter toys? Stalls offering to buy old junk gold for cash?

Ever wonder what graduates of the Israeli military machine are doing in your city peddling rubbish for chump change?

Maybe we all live in the wrong city.

– –

Rebel 4E said...

"...And now here's Tom with the weather.."

reading your latest post sure did brighten up my day, I struggled to finish my slice of toast and marmalade...(*__*)

"Heell Yeahh!!! let's start WW3...We should nuuuke those Irannie sonfabitches ,we's gotta teach those death lovin' Terr-or-ist boys that they caint be tryin' to make no nuclear missiles.."

Anonymous said...

Hi Les,
weird times we are living in.
Just sent you a reuters message about an attack on AHMENANDALLTHAT and now the BBC is denying everything, saying it was a firework that exploded.

could you please hang on to my post
while I go out for some fresh air and talk to God ;)

Thank you


paolocaruso said...

National Public Radio, just aired an interview with a Treasury Department official named Levy, whose job all day is to instigate Iran.

When I listen to the anti-Iran drum beat, it is clear that this is a war for israel facilitated by jewish americans and their control of the media.

Les, as for where do they get their power??? They print the money from nothing and lend it to themselves at low interest.

paolocaruso said...


Here we have an arrogant mega deva MI5 Lucy Walker, Valerie Plame, CIA case officer/beauty queen, the Queen Noor, the Syrian-American CIA operative who needed Louis Gates to tell her who her grandfather was ??? And Meg Ryan to beat the drumbeat against Iran in this propaganda film. A zionist production to be sure.

This botoxed bunch of bimbos think they can really change the world.

Anonymous said...

it would be stupid of ptb,ie israhellis western aristocracy and the rest of those chosenites and supremacists that they know about everything that goes on very stupid indeed...neil

veritas6464 said...

Hey Les,...ALI AKBAR DAREINI the author of the story you linked; is a CIA asset and was trained and groomed for intel' work while the 'Shah' was still in power, his work history is nothing short of a CIA agents' dossier. UN translator and AP journo' - AP is a CIA intel' asset. Fuck him he is a supporter and sayan of that scumbag that organised the Marine Barracks bombing in Beirut, Oct '83. Iranian 'opposition leader': Mir Hossein Mousavi. Israhelli go-to guy.


FromBeyondOmega said...

Ruthie & I find ourselves experiencing our physically accoutered lives as a delight-filled eternal drama on a progressively perfectly logical ever more understandable journey through the divine with the divine being that which we ultimately are, exactly the same as it is for every other physically embodied soul /self / spirit-mind of the divine.

And then, with time & process being indispensible to a living reality it's likewise a given that the collective body of our human kind species will have / reflect a range of perspectives & consciousness levels commensurate with its enviro-experientially individualized human components / persons.

Hence the advent and reason for words / language, whereby we physically individualized spirit-minds are given by our MOTHER-Father parenting Source of Their Children Selves - us - a rudimentary, essential & workable means of gradually progressively and eventually evermore fully sharing amongst each other what we / this and everything else is all about.


It helps immeasurably to quit thinking of oneself as a body and replace that misperception with the fact that we're all actually spirit-minds of the Great Spirit-Mind experiencing what it's like to be systemically integrated throughout the actuality / illusion (take your pick, from this perspective they're the exact same thing) of a multi-dimensional state of being.

War ahead?

Everything that's necessary to reach the Ultimate Peace Love & Fun bo that we're heading for remains ahead of us.

Visible said...

I don't actually know what you're talking about. It's a six degrees of separation all the time. If I liked the story I probably wouldn't care who wrote it but I don't remember this, must be from a comment.

tim said...

The report you read about NY loosing power is absolutely correct. No electricity means: no refrigeration or ice=no food. No lighting, no communications, no water pumps. The cops would have no power to contain chaos except night-vision rifles. 3 days might be a little pessimistic, but not far off. What do you mean by "hot with nuclear tells"?

veritas6464 said...

Hey Les,..Yeah sorry, I should have been more specific; my bad, I get so fluid when I'm working; if I pick up movement in the corner of my eye - whoosh, tangential veritas. Yeah, I recognised the handle from a report filed donkey's ago. That guy is a shill and his work is totally propaganda for the tribe. His family are connected to the former USA backed regime in Iran and he is one of those greedy selfish egoists that enjoys a Euro-trash 'lifestyle' selling out ME lives. Here's an example of his shit from a couple of years ago:

cheers man,


CJ said...

Iran will retaliate. They have at least two nukes. However, I believe the Iranian elite are in on it. You see, they are the local elite. A bit like being the manager of retail are the king, until your boss pops in, or head office sends you a nasty directive.

When the bad news arrives, you do it, or leave...the Iranian elite can`t leave. They are as locked in, as the British PM, who is just another puppet. The Iranian elite played their part very well...I can`t see a single mistake!!

I go further! All the various elites are involved. We are moving into a new phase. Sailing ships once required big crews, factories required many workers and you can add many other examples..farming and military. They all require fewer people. We have aging populations in the West and young ready to procreate in the Far East...with globalisation dead and a 3rd World War looming, it looks like massive planned population reduction. As pointed out, if the lights go off in NY, half are dead in 3 days.

With most of the people gone, so does the need to suppress hidden technology and this will be the new world with masses of once hidden technology being released upon a small, but new society.

Rixon mentions the 3rd coming. Maybe this isn`t just about the war effort, maybe its more about the post war period?

veritas6464 said...

Hey Les,...DOH! I forgot to show your link - again - /*what did I tell you/...@2:46 AM.



GodSend said...

Yahweh's HOLOCAUST is coming to "New Khazaria" (Israel). It's ALL explained in Ezekiel 22:20 and on my website and Blog. Of course, there will be "Collateral Damage" in many other places.

Anonymous said...

On the 7th day of the Sukkot the ten Nazi's were hanged. Now that Purim is over, we shall await and see what happens in October to the Persian King.
For me this is the time the jews will
attack or have America attack Iran.
These jews may have suit and ties on but they practice an ancient and deadly religion.
Read about esther and many things old testament here from the internets foremost scholar on jewish devilment.

GodSend said...

LA, NYC, LV and Cleveland are 4 of the safest cities in the world - all choking on Zionists! On the other hand, there are Chicago, St. Louis and any number of other candidates. If it weren't for hurricanes, Florida would also be a safe place to be.

RobertL said...

I tend to agree with you on your speculation that a whole number of possibilities or scenarios are lurking beneath the water, while the red sea vacationers are casually splashing abóut, oblivious as always. But as logic would have it, for every action, there´s a reaction... and the one they´ve got the most bets on is the reaction which makes a threatening reaction unlikely, unless you´re an intell analyst working for the centcom commander. Maybe I know the guy myself? Point is, certain very clever military types have gone beyond the call of duty, they actually want an attack in order to focus blame on Israel, since we didn´t catch the 911 one. This time we are 500 Billion dollars safer, more equipped and so on. I think the trap has been set,and with all their bloated flatulence every other hour, they can´t even imagine how utterly absurd they´ve become. Blind to their own ignorance, self-righteous infallibility... The tables have turned upon them and this is what the third strike means, you´re out.


Back in the seventies I taught at an international sixth-form college in Suffolk. The were many national groups studying there. The Iranians, though, were very striking for a couple of reasons.

Firstly....though they were all five or six years younger than me, they made me feel like a kid. They were individually such likeable, humble, seemingly wise people. I liked them a great deal but it felt like they were older than me.

Secondly, although very well socialised with staff and other students when leisure times came along (it was a residential school) they all went their separate ways. They did not 'hang out' together.

I was puzzled by this but found out it was because none of them knew who might be spy for the Shah. They all, privately, professed to hating him, but one wrong word could result in you being shot in the airport on your way home.

These people have already taken plenty (with great good grace)from greedy, hypocritical westerners.

Now a final obscenity looms and where are 'StopTheWar'? Where are the political classes? It is said that two-thirds of Conservative MP's are "Friends of Israel". Sre there any 'Friends of England' in House of Commons.

You said it yourself, Les. It's hard to fathom.

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Anonymous said...

I've had about 6 dreams of premonition in my life that have come true and they take from 1-6 days in time to enfold.
Last night I had a nasty dream of me watching a nuclear bomb being thrown in the ocean right at dawn or sunset. This created a huge wave and then I saw trees & people burning. I've never had these kind of dreams. Not saying it was prophetic in nature but it did make me think.
I do feel something coming and I pray it's something better than what my mind things.
Love you Les, Debs.

Dammerung said...

TBH I'm still not sure they'll actually do it. There's a big line between boasting to your friends that you're going to punch that jock square in the nose and actually doing it. Iran loudtalks against Israel all the time, but it's for the benefit of the domestic audience and to prop up the regime's poll numbers. I find it entirely plausible that the Anglo-Israeli Axis is spreading FUD to do the same thing.

On the other hand, some of these sub-moronic lunatics seem to actually believe that war is good for the economy, so maybe this seems like a "rational" response to the collapse of commercial real estate and the Quadrillion Dollar Death Star. Frightening.

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Anonymous said...

I hate these people.


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Barry The Magic Mulatto said...

The Arabs run Holywood as much as the Arabs did 9/11.

Stop lying Alex Jones.

The real holocaust ("burnt offering") of 6 million Khazarians is going to occur when Iran nukes israel completely in retaliation for israel's first bombing attack on Iran.

Anonymous said...

"We Jews, the destroyer, will remain the destroyers forever...... nothing the Gentiles do will meet our needs, our demands." Maurice Samuel who wrote a book called "The Gentiles."

Anonymous said...

Your article brings to mind Cliff High's Israel mistake. Wouldn't it be nice to see their jets (excuse me, the jets we taxpayers gave them) run into a couple of batteries of S300s as soon as they cross into Iranian territory? And then the planes that remain run into a few more batteries on their way to Iran's nonexistent nuclear bomb production facilities. What would they do, what would be the reaction of bankrupt Washington? Lets cool it would be the way to go but as you said they are lunatics. Can't use logic here. As for China and Russia I don't have a clue.

Would a major false flag fly? There are a hell of a lot more people awake now then there were for 911. Blaming Iran for a nuke going off in some US city. Are enough zombies stupid enough to believe a country would commit national suicide? I'm of the opinion that there won't be any nuclear detonations/exchanges of this nature. There is a force out there that won't allow it. Ask yourself this, with all the psychopaths in the various governments how come we have gone over fifty years without any nukes being used in anger? Time will tell. Get a seat in some small town and hold on to the 4Gs. God, guns, gold, grub. It is going to be interesting.


Anonymous said...

as ypu say,les, seems like it's almost time to "Rrr...umble!"

Re: It will be no time to be in the wrong city. For some reason I think of Phoenix and Chicago because of a number of Trifecta like possibilities'

I think the more likely probability - for a whole host of reasons - is Las Vegas.

And don't forget: "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas" - so there's no risk of nuclear fallout escaping the city limits...

- The Ponderer

Anonymous said...

I've been reading (and feeling) along these lines for quite a while. The permutations of what could happen in the aftermath of such an attack are staggering.

Let's just hope there are some adults in the room with the greedy children when the decision-making actually happens. Or that the divine adult smacks all the kids into abject fear and silence.

In the meantime, the USDA is already warning about unexpected(?) foods shortages due to low grain harvests and stockpiles. Imagine how that would be aggravated by worldwide military mayhem. Think I'll stock up on some rice and water. And continue to walk with the light rather than peering too much into the darkness.


European American said...

As both you and Keith Johnson (August Forecast: Cloudy With a Chance of Mayhem) have suggested August 10th as potentially a pivotal day, my intuition senses not so. I'm not challenging here, but I feel that something greater will step in. You've often mentioned Les, in your own eloquently sumptuous style, that a supremely guided intelligence (a cosmic force that supports life rather than damages) is the unknown factor here and I believe, in this specific case, "its" time has truly come. I sense "something" is going to step in, prevent war with Iran. There maybe some flair ups and skirmishes or the appearance of a world war may surface, but all out WW3 is not going to happen. At least not with Iran.

This "something" may express itself from within Iran and fizzle the saber rattling.

Anonymous said...

The Jews running the USraeli Empire are bloodthirsty madmen. They're surrounded by a coterie of mentally and morally defective, traitorous Gentiles, who are in turn surrounded by moral cowards and shameless opportunists.

Once the Empire attacks Iran, and the Iranians respond fiercely, and start doing some damage to the aggressors and their interests, I expect that the Empire will resort to nuclear weapons.

Once that happens, will some people in the "U.S. military" finally find some courage to do the right thing and maybe go after the real enemy? Will Russia and China step in militarily? Will collaborator governments like those in Pakistan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia fall? God only knows where it will end.

One thing I certainly expect is that blood will spill on U.S. soil this time. The next set of intended victims not only have some resources, but have had some time to prepare. And if per chance they don't retaliate on U.S. soil somehow, the Jews will retaliate for them, thereby providing a pretext for the martial law that our Masters will soon desperately need.


TheSparkle said...

Now, this is funny. Last night I received a very clear message of oil 'certainly' being priced at from $100 to $500, inclusive. We shall see. Maybe I was just running through possible worst case situations.

wv: caligglo, ooh a californian gigolo

Anonymous said...

Kinda off topic here but I'm hoping to break up any bad ju-ju of too many minds setting off a chain reaction of something, yo?

Tree (count 'em) axed loggers.

Hey Jack, you heard they gave Ralph
the chop too?

Yeah, I just met up with him at Department of Labor and he told me about it... still seems like a happy fella though.

FromBeyondOmega said...


We too frequently 'don't actually know what you're talking about'.

Terms / ideas such as 'presence and force', and 'a six degrees of separation' have not been routine factors / terms of experience or discourse in our developmental or consciousness paradigms... despite your and our frequently displayed near mirroring of each other's bottom line perspectives. We chalk this up to evidence supporting the inevitablity of there being many more than just one experiential path to the same place; and also why it's imperative that we look to common principles through our species' veil of myriad personal idiosyncrasies to best understand & appreciate each other.

(Time-lapse in responding due to awayness from 'puter.)

Mister_Ed said...

Les, I've been reading these comments and the ones to your Alex Jones article, and for anyone who doesn't see the Israeli involvement in 9-11, I offer up the names of 16 true terrorists. There are more, but investigating these 16 would be a good start. Larry Silverstein, Dov Zakheim, Michael Chertoff, Phillip Zelikow, Daniel Lewin, Michael Goff, Alvin Hellerstein, Shalom Yoran, Maurice "Hank" Greenberg, Jules Kroll, Lewis Eisenberg, Frank Lowy, Jerome Hauer, Ronald S. Lauder, Michael Mukasey, Peter Goelz.

I'm not prejudiced. For 8 years I actually believed the official story. But the more I investigated it, the more I realized it came together like a series of "mitzvahs" for some unseen guy at the top (Evelyn or Jacob Rothschild? Someone above Evelyn or Jacob Rothschild?).

Now we do a 3rd war--Iran, and it probably will eventuate in WWIII/global EMP. But I sincerely recommend people investigate those names.

[And to Infowars credit: I did post the names there and they left my comment up for 2 weeks. Afterward, however, my 9-11 comments were lucky if they got past moderation.]

Bill B. said...

On Tarpley's blog he reports:

The August 10th date also appears since it is the dark of the moon.

"It is genuinely appalling to realize that we are now back to something resembling the desperate situation of 2002, with Iran as the target this time around. One rule of thumb which many learned during the Bush-Cheney years is that the attack is likely to start during the dark of the moon. This suggests a possible timetable built around August 10, September 8, or October 7 of this year, or perhaps some time later. It may come as an October surprise, as de Borchgrave seems to suggest. We are back once again to the classic predicament of persons of good will in recent decades: get active or get radioactive. So it’s time to get active."

Anonymous said...

Aug. 10 or Aug. 25 (the guys over at HPH seem to like that date) or by Nov. 8 at the latest... One thing is seemingly true, it's coming and there is only one force that can stop it...

Does anyone remember the mainstream media buildup of hypnotic lies before fascist American forces attacked Iraq? Does it sound familiar? ;-) They are playing all of the same damn cards that were shown to the world 3 months before the rape of Iraq back in 2003.

Les, I thank you for your continued service.

PS: That song that you sung on the beginning of the radio show this week (give yourself away) totally rocked my socks.

GodSend said...

This thread abounds with personal 'feelings', 'intuition' and assorted drivel. The ALIEN RACE feeds on human blood, suffering and death - the more, the better. All the (almost continuous) wars in human history testify to the voracious appetite of the Reptilian (what else!) ALIEN RACE. Their father is the DRAGON (SERPENT), himself!

It's time for a FINAL FEEDING FRENZY - before Yahweh closes the book on THEM! and paves paradise with desert glass!

Mazel Tov!

Anonymous said...

Another *GREAT* post Les, Like you say..this war launched against Iran will most assuredly rock our collective worlds, indeed.The maniac
psychopaths in charge of this madness are about to unleash the demons that reside in the lower pits of hell... America and the rest of the world will never ever be the same...
Keep bringing it Brother Les, maybe someone who can make an impact to stop this nightmare might be reading your post....*MAYBE*

Your Brother In Spirit

m_astera said...

Superb work, Les. The best political commentary by you that I have read and as true and incisive as anything I have ever read.

So many ways this driven insanity of mankind is expressed, from wasting their lives as wage slaves to living vicariously in front of the TV. In this piece, you went to the heart of the contemporary heart of it, the incredibly insane idea of starting another fucking war for the benefit of Whom? Surely not anyone normal or decent. A war for psychopaths.

Kudos; awesome writing.

Mr Ed and all, twenty years ago, before I had ever heard of Mayer Amschel, I was informed that the Rothschild's had the ability to transfer the soul of the dying into a new baby born into their family. It was a "technological" ability, related to their alliance with the interdimensional demons/parasites who strip souls and send them back to the farm to do it again.

Hypothesizing the latter makes the former logical and doable.

The same source claimed that gold had the property of recording human memory and emotion.

Maybe the bastard never did die. Maybe he just found the right coins.

Anonymous said...

evil men scheme
scheme evil schemes
thinking low downs
counting out beans
fiends of the heart
cobwebbed and withered
demon infested
mind in a prison
lower consumed
project out frustrate
warmongering lies
falsehood and hate
committing of pig
sacrifice just itself
demon cant see
it only see's wealth
the collecting of gold
all there is to take
the only outcome
itself it'll break
everything it do
turned upside down
damaged and broken
burried in the ground.


Anonymous said...

The Chinese will be the next to invade the Middle East. They will be going for the oil. Iran will be a partner for them. The Chinese will need to go thru Pakistan and Afghanistan where the US has shifted it's Middle East forces.

The Israeli's will be fighting on all fronts possible in the Mediterranean as well.

The Israeli land mass does not support any sort of pull back or redoubt. If they don't hold their ground - they lose. If the advance they become vulnerable.

They always have needed someone to fight their wars for them. They think money will contol everything for them; they are wrong.

They attempt to create sympathy for themselves by playing the victum. Not overtly like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton but in subtle ways.

Their enemies have leaned from the last wars; this one will be different.

Anonymous said...

This is how it will all go down.... watch and see:

"For when they are saying, 'Peace and safety' then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." 1Thess 5:3

Lynn D.

Anonymous said...

CJ at 5.43... seems to be on the money. As i said in my previous comment(2.23), Iranians on the street are as oppossed to being lead into hell as the next man.

Think Albert Pike - and how WWIII would be fomented. Seems the time is here: half the sheeple have been trained to hate Islam the other half Zionism. Job done. 'ORDO AB CHAO'.


Anonymous said...

One thing has puzzled me for a long time. I have NEVER seen anyone say: "So what IF Iran gets a nuclear weapon...or a number of them?" Does everybody think that they are insane, when they are confronted by nuclear subs, any one of which could virtually destroy all of the world's major cities? Why has no one asked this seemingly obvious question? What happened to MADD (mutually assured destruction) which used to scare people? The world is truly nuts, as are all the people who think that an Iran with nuclear weapons places the world in imminent danger. Is it just me? Hasn't anyone else thought of the same thing? A lot of people are insane, but I'm not sure the Iranians are among them. Too bad they are going to play such a prominent part in the end of the world. By the way...they have never attacked anybody else in their 800 year+ history. Phil Klein

Anonymous said...

For those who say, what do we do, how do we stop it, who will stop it, when will someone stop it etc etc. Ask the French how they dealt with aristocratic pigs. Why do you think there have been global arms amnesties in countries all over the world in the last 20 years, usually after some mind crazed shooter goes through a school or small town. The lone gun men have been very handy in disarming the world!

Merry_Ragnarok said...

Then, on the eve of WW3,
Men nodded, smiled, did not agree;
As, towards the end of WW4,
Men did not even know the score.
Between 'rad' World Wars 4 & 5
Men found the time to thieve & thrive...
Until, of course, they got to 6,
When Mankind crossed the river Styx...


Anonymous said...

This is a test.

This is only a test.

Had this been a real emergency you would have been advised to bend over and kiss your ass good-bye.

This comes from the timewarp
c.1960s and is still applicable.


Anonymous said...

GodSend? Yahweh's an asshole and so are you. I don't feel the need to elaborate ATM.

Phil R

TheSparkle said...

"Forty of America's billionaires and their families pledged Wednesday to give more than half of their fortune to charity in a drive organized by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett."

This will be some type of 'black' fund to keep the machine going a bit longer.

wv: auturg

They auturgive to me or my dogs instead or even a toaster; at least it would be used benignly.

Origen the heretic said...

I believe I mentioned here once before that Joe Vialls said back in 2004 or '05 that Russia had installed 20 nuclear tipped Onyx cruise missiles in Iran that were under Russian control. I certainly hope he was right. But be of good cheer: assuming things go to hell in a hand basket (and it certainly looks very likely) it won't be the first time and probably not the last. "There is nothing new under the sun." This planet has had nuclear war at least once before -- evidence in India, South America, and the Middle East among other places. I think it was Oppenheimer who was asked in a Q&A session after one of his talks at a university, "Was the trinity bomb the first nuclear explosion?" To which he replied, "Yes, well in modern times of course."

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

Great article & pleased to see more people being alerted to what's coming before the November elections.

In years' past, it was called the "October Surprise", but it could happen in August. It's a good time with people concerned about kids going back to school so little attention is given to Iran.

Anonymous said...

Israel's Mossad knows full well that Israel is surrounded with missiles from every direction pointed at their country. They also know that they can't strike Iran without US support. There are also missiles pointed at US bases in Iraq, Afghanistan, and US naval bases such as the one in Bahrain in the Persian Gulf. Watch out US fifth fleet and sixth fleet because it's coming to you. Russia and China will not sit back and do nothing if and when that time comes. China has huge liquefied natural gas (LNG) contracts with Iran and Russia has many Russian personnel working at Iran's Bushehr nuclear plant. Russia's sales of sophisticated S-300 surface to air missiles and other types of missiles to Iran makes this coming war theater against Iran even more suicidal.

Publius said...

President Ahmadinejad has flashed to the world the good old"hook 'em horns" sign so beloved by the upper crust. I think CJ is correct, Iranian elites are part of the great game-after all the Mullahs were put into power by the Brezenski faction-according to the Shah himself. Predumably the expected outcome of any such war would be to create One World Military Government -to stop more wars.

Anonymous said...

So basically you just made this all up?

Anonymous said...

It's a combination of mental illness, money, cunning, and an ability to hide among normal people.

It's why they've been thrown out of one country after another. There's a reason for that. Sadly, we seem to have forgotten the lessons handed down to us by those who suffered before.

The psychos are in charge and it's just a matter of time. Those embassies read hot because they have been transit points for small nukes secreted in most countries where Israel has an emabssy.

They have absolutley nothing to stop them flicking the switches one day and lighting up our world, least of all any inner voice of reason and humantiy.

They are flawed human beings, possibly a genetic sub strain that did not develop.

Amsterdam said...

@ Mr.Ed an interesting thought-hmmm.I've always thought that the "city of London" would be a good place to look for an alien presence of some type.Follow the money,as "they" say.If i remember my sunday school lessons right wasn't the devil cast out of heaven onto earth?.. Great site and well thought out posts here- deep thinkers you are ! :)

Bigsy said...

Bait and Switch
Bait and Switch
Bait and Switch

You can only trust events to be indicators, barometers of where we're intended to look. Observe, but trust nothing.

Truth and Reality are often a lot stranger than their Fictional representations. And sometimes when things of evil intent succeed once, they fail in all the following attempts.

Also pretty sure there's been some back porch talk that would not be disclosed in the public domain. Would be disappointed if there wasn't. These are the wild cards that prevent foregone conclusions and enable the collective Will to manifest.

Rabbit said...

The bit about them agreeing to the UN investigation hit me exactly the same. They'd never agree to it, unless they knew it wasn't going to happen.

Anonymous said... won't be Phoenix.

Scottsdale. You forgot that Scottsdale is the west's West Palm Beach. \

Do you believe that well heeled Jewish snowbirds will be giving up Scottsdale? Where will the chosen go during the winter then? Blow up the Mayo Clinic in North Scottdale? Irradiate Fashion Square and the Borgata? Vaporize the Biltmore?

Never. They'd miss it too much.

Besides....there's a ready supply of foreign slaves without papers....

Nah....There will be no such evil in Phoenix...
The collective Jewish howl would put 12 dozen banshees to sham

Anonymous said...

israhell bankers
and comitters of pig crime
watch your plans turn to dust
in the backs of your mind
the filth that you practise
on the people of the world
smash and illiminated
through space being twirled
the honor you sold
in your withered hearts
the innocense you murdered
and raped in the dark
the hate that you practise
crushed from within
to late you failed
in all and everything
your demon broke inner pig
squealing in pain
its shame amplified
by the lightning bird rains
the forces of nature
connected of all
the lion the lamb
buffalo and the horse


Amsterdam said...

I just saw on faux news that Iran has come across SA-300 missles.Its gonna get eXciting now.Kinda feels like Christmas eve(not) - TIME IS SHORT...anybody know where the carrier battle groups are at ???

E-bee said...

Marine battles in the Meditteranean and Asia, and war in the Middle east, will occur BEFORE WWIII, the Great War.
In the Great War, China will invade North America and Canada, Russia will come in Spearheads to Europe and the Middle East, they made a deal. This War is like a moviescript. There will be great revolutions in Europe before the Great War comes and several big cities in the US will be nuked, including New York. It is not possible to mention a date.
After all this passes, WWIII will start, suddenly, from the Balkan.
This will be a Spiritual War and will put an end to the secret world government.
Search for Alois Irlmaier for mindblowing details.
aug 5, 2010, The Netherlands.

Anonymous said...

wonder beams patterns of light
through the mind
charging of lightning bird
chiefs thunder shines
symbols of waken free
signs through a walker
connecting moon star and sun
rise from the source of
raw light of sacred
strum notes of rainbow
color sound wind shake
old ancient wild blow
living truth seeds
from the ground open wake
on the meadow of ever be
true nature vibrate


Nick said...

I trust LV's and Debs' insight and intuition more than the other facts because the other facts may be designed to add up to so much speculation before the event, after which there is no further speculation. I wonder how many other readers have had these kinds of premonitions and what the energy behind them is.

3 days before 9/11, on the other side of the planet, I was lying in bed staring into empty space when my wife came out of the shower and asked me "what's wrong?" I said "nothing, just seeing aeroplanes coming in to land and crashing in each other"

5 days before 'Shock&Awe" I had a long and very pleasant dream wherein I was strolling with Saddam along dirt roads in the hills of Iraq, stopping off here and there for a greeting and an offered drink; looking at some ancient remnant, all very pleasant. we then went into a bombed out shell of a building on the edge of the road for a pee. I finished and walked back onto the road and sauntered along upto the next bend, climbed a big boulder and waited for Saddam to finish and catch up. After a while I climbed back down and walked over to the bombed out building to search for him, I did not find him.

Having read most of the comments I have no doubt that The Peoples' outrage will be contained: Empire Atrocites will be 'played down' and Iranian one's played up. More of the same old same old. Another thing I am sure about and, as interesting as speculation is, it is not speculative to say that the further anyone is from the explosions, the better it will be for them. That's why 9/11 got the reaction it did in the usa. Even the so-called Indian Wars were mostly fought outside the colonised areas.

governments collapsing is highly possible if there are already weak points within the governments. The gulf states and Arabia have none. As for an old-fashioned revolution - the immoral governments would sooner kill the people than move aside.

Anonymous said...

I think Monarch mind control answers most of your questions on this, Les and commenters. Even lady Gaga's trying to get this message out ;-/

No doubt you've already wallowed in the cess-pit of Thule-stooge-turned-whistleblower-psyops Fritz Springmeier? I doubt he's serving that 9 year prison sentence just for a faked robbery charge.

As for 'elite' longevity, did anyone come across the February 2010 print version National Geographic? Inside the front cover is a most curious advert from Credit Suisse encouraging punters to throw their money at an established course of treatment leading to a guaranteed life expectancy of 300 years+.

Whatever other scams these banksters are fooling us with, somehow this ad doesn't gell as being a spoof. Hmm.


ps: May I respectfully suggest a good hard read of WG Carr's "Pawns in the Game" for everything Weisshaupt and onward? It's freely available on although no longer on yamaguchi, since it was absorbed by [;)

Visible said...

Jesus Nick that was pretty authoritative. I feel like I'm at the end of one of those Boy George songs like Karma Chameleon tailing off, possibly even like salamanders do. I've been working, off and on, on this new visible origami and it's got the same hit. "Freedom isn't free so, give yourself away and you will no longer be the problem" can one quote themselves? They do, wah diddy.

and even this is a recording.

GodSend said...

To all the dreamers who dreamed about airliners crashing on 911:

No airliners crashed on 911!

Cruise missiles and demolition charges (thermite and mini-nukes) exploded and doctored videos appeared on TV around 911. A HOAX was perpetrated on unsuspecting and gullible minds.

America was attacked by Israel (Mossad) on 911, in an act of WAR and TREASON (Bush-it and now ObamaRahm-a).

The coming attack on Iran and 911-II will just be "more of the same".

The AGENTS (Zionist Slimeballs) of the ALIEN RACE are truly DIABOLICAL.
THEY control America, just like Ariel Sharon said!

Peter of Lone Tree said...

Target: Iran - Pentagon Psychos Prepare for WWIII

Anonymous said...

Dogpoet - your understanding of the whole situation would take a great leap forward if you took the time to study this:

It takes time (it's a looong story), courage, patience and a willingness to keep an open mind while your ego shrieks in terror and tries to tell you it's all new-age superstition - but the truth is, this text will allow you to understand the nature of evil, psychopaths, and how the world got like it is. And it's f**king scary.
But in the end it makes total sense, of many things. WARNING - your programming will almost immediately try to get you to dismiss the concepts you encounter in this text as mumbo-jumbo. THAT REALLY IS A SIGN YOU'RE ONTO SOMETHING THE MATRIX DOESN'T WANT YOU TO KNOW.

Good luck


Visible said...

Simon, I have read all of that and the books and even visited them in France. Wait there for a moment while I stand up and dance.

Nick said...

I've let myself be hijacked all along the line. Not complaining, just a fact.
I've figured I'm not going anywhere.
Just like the Circle Line on the London Underground - the yellow one.

Visible said...

It starts in your head. That is where you win or lose but you have to remember to ask your heart for help when you need it.

GodSend said...

Laura is a LUNIE (also spelled LOONIE)! She makes David Icke sound like a reasonable man (ALIENS are controlling us from secret moon bases!). Icke is right about other-dimensional (reptilian) ALIENS (as opposed to Illegal Aliens) controlling Humanity on Gulag Earth, however!

GodSend said...

Wisdom proceeds FROM the heart into the head. If you put that in reverse, your head will EXPLODE before the heart has a chance!

Javier R. said...

I am really waiting for the change. All my life I have been in this rat race and feeling honestly inadequate to just stay put in a job 5 or 6 days a week. I would love to have to do anything else. I am a part-time teacher now with some eventual projects. But I do not seem to find that place in the world for me where I can earn some money and be happy at the same time. I guess It is like this for most people.
Thanks Les for your writings. They keep me going.

Anonymous said...

Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica

Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. [According to Norman Finkelstein of the City University of New York in his book The Holocaust Industry published in the year 2000, ‘The Israeli Prime Minister’s office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million’ (p.83)]. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize..

Time Magazine, March 18 1985:

‘How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? "I will never know" Wiesel says. "I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?"

Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under ‘Buchenwald’:

"In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions."

Anonymous said...

I've checked out the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.
Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill's Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.

Anonymous said...

Interesting arithmetic - the incredible numbers

Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel’s Five Chimneys: a woman survivor’s true story of Auschwitz (Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).

According to Lengyel, ‘After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.’ (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in ‘death pits’ has been found.]

This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader's credulity.

The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: "Passionate, tormenting". Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering "You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak."

Could this claim be a misprint?

Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:

‘Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.’ (p 118; Return to Auschwitz - paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).

According to the cover blurb, ‘The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.’ ‘Both engaging and harrowing…an important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive’ – Martin Gilbert, The Times.

'Sir' Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the ‘Holocaust’ and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:

In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states

‘The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe’s Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.’ (p.26). [This statement, first noticed by Professor Robert Faurisson, was then deleted (not corrected) from the next edition - no simple typo, no simple error with omission or spelling or grammar, just a case of being caught red-handed in blatant chutzpah deluxe.]

If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the amazing claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert’s blessing.

Anonymous said...

I have nothing to lose, a world turn upside down might even gain me something. So it won't bother me if Iran is nuked. I live in America, but it's no life.

FromBeyondOmega said...

As paean to all the above & below grand self-righteous condemnatory dooms-day hysterics of my beloved fellow humans, the following:

So, rather than become and thus be the Godly overseers and learners of what is coming upon us as the consequence of our thoughts and behaviors and actions, you are instead, my fellows, choosing to remain instruments and actualizers of that which offends you?

Are you so imbedded with the habits of thinking yourselves mere helpless & ever-victimized subjects of this Creation - rather than being Its Creators - that you fail to see with open minds that - as we have been informed by none other than our fair leader and servant of God, Les Visible, concurring with his dutiful brother from beyond omega - that WE ARE GOD?

Is it truly a greater pleasure for you - and even Les! - to remain wicked and slothful children of Satan by joining up with Satan's servants who both contemptuously mock & ignore you for your folly as they zealously give their lives and take away those for whom they have no respect in service to fulfillment of humankind's Divine prophecies?

Do you not see that you are making yourselves one with that which you condemn by not clearing the cobwebs of bigotry and hypocrisy from your brains & hearts? Do you not see that by your own despicableness you are erasing yourselves from existence?

I will say no more of this.

Visible said...

that's a mercy, couched and cowering but ready to pounce. I can't find my ticket can I buy another ounce?

Visible said...

If I'm being paid by anyone it is news to me. I give myself away, I give myself away and... I am no longer the problem

Pstonie said...

Hmm, it seems the web bot machine has run dry, but this news cycle has been most entertaining. Will it wane as before or erupt? Oh, the drama.

As for what lies ahead, my advice as just another voice on the internet would be: Be ready for anything even if you are not prepared for it, especially in the event that nothing changes.

That's where I'll be. I feel good.

Visible said...

That actually made sense and it's funny.

whatbox? said...

Fascinating times we live in. To be able to be the few (and on the grand scale, we are but a few) who can see for sure the front of the train has run off a cliff and still feel strapped in our chairs with an air of resigned in-evitability is a fascinating feeling.

Turn the tide Dogpoet? Can we?
Folks? Can we? Should we?
Should we mourn an inevitable turning of grand cycles? Gnash our teeth as humongous planetary energies make certain geographies mad with blood-lust and others into sheeple havens? At some point, even should end, yes? Is that not how it is and always has been?

If we truly are a generation(s) that is a part of a great change of the ages, then I say bring it on. No rush but no holding back either.

The destroyers have their role and will ultimately expend themselves.

The destroyed are free.

The rest need to just dive with-in.

Then, when you find your original voice, you can surf like the god DP, smooth and merciless.

Be well.

Anonymous said...

Visible - I cannot disagree with anything about your article. My worldview is as a Christian. All things may well be pointing to a coming conflagration very soon, with a soon to follow appointment, annointing - call it what you will - of the ultimate anti-Christ. At that juncture things are going to get extremely ugly. Your salient points about the death of 1/2 of New York residents following a power outage is very plausible, especially in the staggering heat of late. This sort of apocalypse would likely be on a global basis. The elitist/scum are very eager to rid this world of 90 some % of it's useless eaters (their term) and what better way than to turn the table upside down with a full scale attack on Iran. God help us in that aftermath.

Visible said...

Indeed and in deed.

Visible said...

Fascinating times we live in. To be able to be the few (and on the grand scale, we are but a few) who can see for sure the front of the train has run off a cliff and still feel strapped in our chairs with an air of resigned in-evitability is a fascinating feeling.

Turn the tide Dogpoet? Can we?
Folks? Can we? Should we?
Should we mourn an inevitable turning of grand cycles? Gnash our teeth as humongous planetary energies make certain geographies mad with blood-lust and others into sheeple havens? At some point, even should end, yes? Is that not how it is and always has been?

If we truly are a generation(s) that is a part of a great change of the ages, then I say bring it on. No rush but no holding back either.

The destroyers have their role and will ultimately expend themselves.

The destroyed are free.

The rest need to just dive with-in.

Then, when you find your original voice, you can surf like the god DP, smooth and merciless.

Be well.

Anonymous said...

I am never able to comment on greg bacons site,goon squad,for some reason,probably because I am completely useless with a computer so I am going to say over hear,thankyou for all what you write,you have me in tears sometimes...neil

Anonymous said...

Good News Guys!

Anonymous said...

So, today congress approved the nomination of Elena Kagan (check her out on wikipedia)to the supreme court even though she has NO judicial experience.

In 2001, she was named a full professor and in 2003 was the first woman to be named Dean of the Law School by Harvard University President Lawrence Summers, who failed at that job and now is Obama's economic advisor.

No experience, and she get the job anyway to fill "the quota"!

They rockin' all right.

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FromBeyondOmega said...

Incidentally, even a brief examination of of the Times quickly reveals to any direct initiate of the Divine the influence of Satan. This is not to mean that the sincere, very well written and well meaning commentary there is evil or not good, but that it is written by unwitting false prophets unwittingly affected by their critical ignorance of both the fundamental and absolute nature of Satan. The same can be said of the Zeitgeist Movement et al.

Such heroic ventures by well-intentioned intelligent human minds is both inevitable and good given the state of affairs in which the human condition presently finds itself. Yet such has been expected from times of our antecedent prophets of the Divine many millenia previous to these.

Nonetheless, these initially perhaps seeming admirable although inadequately informed ventures by false prophets are of more value to achieving Satan's ultimate objective than they are the Divine's, and each are book-burners by their commentary if not by fire.

The key to Satan's success in defeating the Divine is interdependent with humankind's being kept fundamentally ignorant of both Satan and the Divine, with the knowing of both being interdependent with the knowing of either.

Knowing such things as these is the mark of the key of David, which opens the door that none other can close and closes the door that none other can open.

Peter of Lone Tree said...

Dublin Mick said...
Damn dog you mean Laura had the key to this thing all along and we were too stupid to see the truth?

Mick, you and the rest of the readers might want to check out The Quantum Future Group Sites Master Index and bookmark it for reference.

Anonymous said...

Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakur:

Putana [the demoness who tried to kill Krishna] is the slayer of all infants. The baby, when he or she comes out of the mother's womb, falls at once into the hands of the pseudo-teachers of religion. These teachers are successful in forestalling the attempts of the good preceptor whose help is never sought by the atheists of this world at the baptism of their babies. This is ensured by the arrangements of all established churches of the world. They have been successful only in supplying watchful Putanas for effecting the spiritual destruction of persons from the moment of their birth with cooperation of their worldly parents. No human contrivance can prevent these Putanas from obtaining possession of their pulpits. This is due to the general prevalence of atheistic disposition in the people of this world.

The church that has the best chance of survival in this damned world is that of atheism under the convenient guise of theism. The churches have always proved the staunchest upholders of the grossest form of worldliness from which even the worst of non-ecclesiastical criminals are found to recoil.

GodSend said...


Just for the record, Jesus the Christ said:

"I AM the Alpha and the Omega" (the Beginning and the End).

When speaking of the "Divine", it's more accurate to speak of God, the Father; God, the Son; and God, the Holy Spirit.

Any talk of the "Divine" outside those limits (as defined in Holy Scripture), is human imagination and 'creativity', GONE WILD! God's authenticated Word (see Dr. Ivan Panin) makes it clear that NOTHING (not even a "tittle") is to be added, deleted or changed!

It IS what it IS! It IS written!

Dammerung said...

egh. Aug 10th is the day before Ramadan starts. The psychopaths just adore profaning holy days with mass murder. This situation today is as dangerous as it has ever been in recorded human "history."

Anonymous said...

Peter of Lone Tree
I don't deny Laura has some good information over there but I cannot patronize on a regular basis any site that does not link smoking mirrors. It suggests too much ego involved. That is just the way it is for me.

FromBeyondOmega said...

Jeeze, Father! As if learning how to deal with the devil, hanging nailed from a cross, and even the zio-nazis weren't enough... Now you go and send us this GodSend character to deal with?!

We love you bunches too!

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Anonymous said...

It IS written ..... well, 3 guess who wrote it!?! Not god the father, son or holy spirit. Humans wrote it - crazy psychopathic humans wrote the bible as "the word of god." And the sick bastards can't even own up to thier disgusting ways. They hide behind "god" to do their dirty deeds. Pathetic.

GodSend said...

But rest assured in the end we will all get exactly what we deserve.

Well, Dublin Mick, you put your foot in it again! You SEE!, the whole idea of the Cross is that SIOME of us do NOT get what we deserve! (in the end).

Weren't you raised Catholic? Goofing off behind the altar instead of paying attention, no doubt!

GodSend said...

Hey - Anon 2:03 PM:

I refer you to Dr. Ivan Panin, a Russian mathematician who was among the 1st to decipher 'Bible Codes' - and then, by the sheer and overwhelming evidence of his discovery, became a Believer.

You know so little, I'm embarrassed for you. Wise up!

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Anonymous said...

Great post, Les. And great comment from Mr. Ed right up at the top. A little light went on when I read your last sentence.

" . . . but Mr. Ed will never speak unless he has something to say!"

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m_astera said...


Re Godsend, it's supposed to be humor, sent especially to make us other know-it-alls laugh.

Not one word shall be changed and every bit of it will be fulfilled. Judging and condemning those who mean you no harm, promising them eternal torture if they fail to agree with you? I wouldn't want to gather those brambles, but to each their own.

Not even a tittle of what he wishes on those who mean him well shall go unfulfilled. As in "Tag- you're It!"

Godsend thinks that someone died for his sins, so he doesn't have to pay for them. Are you laughing yet? I am.

Origen the heretic said...

Speaking of the council of Nicaea, has anyone here read some of the books of the 'bible' that were not included? I mean changing people into donkeys , etc. George Carlin, where are you? You missed a lot of great material there, and I reckon you've find out by now that there is a God, but you were right on the mark about religion being the greatest bullshit story ever told.

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

Srila Prabhupada:
He said - that is in the Bible - that he took all the sinful reactions of the people and sacrificed his life. But these Christian people have made it a law for Christ to suffer while they do all nonsense. [Bob gives a short laugh.] Such great fools they are! They have let Jesus Christ make a contract for taking all their sinful reactions so they can go on with all nonsense. That is their religion. Christ was so magnanimous that he took all their sins and suffered, but that does not induce them to stop all these sins. They have not come to that sense. They have taken it very easily. "Let Lord Jesus Christ suffer, and we'll do all nonsense." Is it not?

It is so.

Anonymous said...

I did wise up, GodSend .... that's when I realized what's written in the bible ain't the way it is.

"Godsend thinks that someone died for his sins, so he doesn't have to pay for them. Are you laughing yet? I am." YES I AM!!

WV: cuslyt ... I used to cuss a lot, then I realized I have to pay for my own sins. Now I cuslyt

TheSparkle said...

How 'bout The Kolbrin? I have read what is available online and a hard copy is on the way from New Zealand along with a copy of The Kailedy.

Very interesting stuff. I wonder if the book(s) of Troy survived at all.

kikz said...

i'm w/sparkle and JLLash on this one... bible bollocks....,+not+in+his+image&source=bl&ots=QAhOYAGeGU&sig=UEpNduG69Zk4gm2q1p94f1WmOgE&hl=en&ei=821dTKyECcG78gb8pdC9DQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCIQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false

60+pgs partial read...

and frm lash's metahistory site; in particular the low down on the sect that wrote the dead sea scrolls... the 'anointers' of the first jew king saul..

" have a Messiah, literally "the anointed," one must have an anointer. The Hebrew word "messiah" was applied to a Jewish king anointed with holy oil, after the model of the entronement of sacred kings throughout the Middle East (although the adoption of the rites of sacred kingship by the ancient Hebrews was an anomaly, an aberration in their religious life — but that, too, is another story.) Christ, from the Greek verb khrio, "anointing," is Paul's substitution for "Messiah." Both Christ and Messiah mean "the anointed one," but with the shift from Hebrew to Greek this term acquires a supernatural spin. Or to say it otherwise, in the Pauline Christ the secret, superhuman identity of the Zaddikite Messiah becomes disclosed.

Chirst is the Anointed One, as every Christian knows. But who did the anointing? For someone to be anointed, there must be someone of a higher spiritual standing who anoints. Anointing is an empowerment, but the transfer of power must be from the anointer, who bestows it, to the anointed, who receives it. In his amazing disclosure, Paul declares the obvious: the Christ-Messiah must receive his power and authority from elsewhere: "Christ glorified not himself to be made a high priest." Most theologians would argue that it is from the Father God, Jehovah, that the anointing power derives, and that it was symbolically enacted through the baptism by John in the Jordan, but Paul tells a different story. He attributes the power to anoint (or ordain) Christ to a secret agent, Melchizedek. This name means "prince or regent" (melchi-) of "righteousness" (zaddik).

Paul continues his disclosure of Zaddikite secret doctrine by describing in a specific manner the nature of the Anointer, Melchizedek:"

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Anonymous said...

I confess I do like the part about there being many mansion in the father's house. I am hoping there is one for the demons on this planet where they can chase each other around in a dark fiery hell and use each other for food and blood drinking. (Yeah I am that kind of guy) I believe there is a planet like this somewhere, I am sure of it, I am sure of it.

There is probably a mansion for you also. Maybe something where they play video games, point fingers at each and tell each other they will taste the fire for not following the script closely enough and time is running out before the guy in the sky comes to make everything right. At this point the game ends, you realize it was all a spoof and you realize the video game wasn't programmed right and you have to start from square one again.

Most of us aren't going to hell but some form of heaven. I am sure there is a kindergarten type mansion up there somewhere for you where you don't have to reason or put two together, just absorb the lesson plan and put two and two together, slowly very slowly.

RW said...


"When you went for the gold, you said hello to the lizards"

Nuf said. . .

GodSend said...

I encourage all the Doubters here to save your arguments and ammunition for your final appearance before God's Great, White Throne. It's also called "The Second Death". Some (MANY) WILL 'get what they deserve in the end'!

Dublin Mick:

So far, you have NOT convincingly refuted anything I said. I do feel 'apologetic' about that. ;)

GodSend said...

Most of us aren't going to hell but some form of heaven.

WOW, Dublin Mick, how did you ever come to that conclusion? Thank God, nobody in their right mind will believe you - or anyone else who makes such an obviously RIDICULOUS statement, founded on nothing but thin air - the same whispy stuff on which Whirly Ben's untold $Trillions of printed, fiat money are founded!

Visible said...

You can create an argument anywhere if you have no intention of agreeing with anyone but insist that everyone bow down to an impossible fantasy. But why not go somewhere where people like to argue and where being a jerk is something people look forward to because you're just one more of them.

Why come somewhere where no one agrees with you and where you distort the teachings of the one you say you follow and sneer and pounce about in such a way that only a Nimrod would pay any attention. We are short of Nimrod's around here and your church is filled with them. There you can celebrate your churches murders and hypocrisies. There you can wallow not only in the poisoned blood of an imaginary fabrication of someone beyond the reach of an unimaginative cretin but also in the blood and screams of your victims. If I had one of your Bible's here I would wipe my ass with it.

GodSend said...

Les Visible:

There is no better place for me (and others like me) to visit than the Blog of someone who believes that there is a Divinity which not only shapes our ends, but is equipped with an elephant's head, 8 arms and an entire language of utter nonsense, founded on the same whirly and whispy air, previously mentioned. You and your followers here are trying to attract the unwitting and clueless with your Luciferian (false) light - to your and their eternal DOOM!

GodSend said...

Les, there is no more "impossible fantasy" than your elephant-headed, 8-armed "Divinity" and his thousands of cohorts!

GodSend said...

I don't recommend for anyone to "wipe their ass" with the Bible. For one thing, it's usually bound and hard cover. For another, it tends to be kinda thick and heavy and could easily slip into the gurgler before the job is done. Also, it's not "flushable", so disposal becomes a problem. And what if you need a 2nd or 3rd or 4th wipe???

On the other hand, God is not likely to approve of your use of His Word in that manner!

If you must be imaginative and 'creative', try a goose's neck, instead!

Visible said...

That's what I mean. You get tolerance here, even though you know nothing about the actuality of Christ but you offer no tolerance and you fabricate and lie in order to serve your ends and not a single person here has been influenced by you except to have their opinion on your sort of Christian confirmed.

I'm no more a follower of Ganesh than you are of Jesus Christ. I recognize his particular job and I appreciate his help. I simply follow the Hindu path and Ganesh is only one feature of it.

You are getting annoying again though so I'm going to have to send you packing soon back to the emptiness of your unvisited site, so keep that in mind. Behave in a civil fashion and engage in intelligent debate and lay off the bullshit about Hell and what an unforgiving headstomper your version of God is or hit the road. We don't mind your pandering your wares in a civil and intelligent manner. Next time you fuck up you will be gone for awhile.

Anonymous said...

godsend the attention you seek,will not ever come from anybody else it will only come from inside yourself,it is obvious to the people here that you dont see them as your brothers and sisters,as you treat them less than you would treat yourself,whilst the real evil in the world carries on with its stinking agenda.
. .. peace neil..

TheSparkle said...

I spent 4 years at a Southern Baptist University full of entertaining fools just like Godsend. Enjoy him. It's a lot of fun to have him here.

@Godsend, if you'd try talking 'like jesus' maybe more would listen.

@kikz, I'm still reading Lash's book. It's very good. Lots of ancient history. In addition to his other qualities Lash is a great researcher.

TheSparkle said...

Jesus did not talk like a damn fool, ok?


GodSend said...


If you (and others) read your last comment carefully, you will discern that it contains many inaccuracies, false accusations and innuendo.

Where have I "fabricated and lied"?

How have I been "intolerant"?

What are "my ends"?

How do you know who has been "influenced" by my comments and how? There are more lurkers than talkers on Blogs!

How do you know my website and Blog are "empty" and "unvisited"? (Few comment on my Blog but there are many hundreds who visit my website from all countries around the world (every month) - and have since 1996). Besides that, does it matter how many visit and comment?

I truly revel in (and invite) "intelligent and civil debate". Let's hear some!

Instead of calling me a "jerk", try addressing a point of debate using FACT - or a reasonable facsimile thereof.

TheSparkle said...

Anonymous said...

Mary Magdalene annointed Jesus. She used spikenard that she kept in the alabaster jar that she is always seen holding in ancient paintings of her.

A man once told me that Mary Magdalene was an initiate of the Order of the Dove, and that Mary, Mother of Jesus, initiated her to the Order. Mary Magdalene was Jesus' spiritual teacher and initiated him. I've never found much to read about on this, other than Margaret Songbird's work on Mary Magdalene and Elizabeth Van Buren's, "The Sign of the Dove." Supposedly, Edgar Cayce has written about the Order of the Dove and Mary, the Mother of Jesus, but I have yet to find anything.


Visible said...

You attack other religions. You fabricate people's positions and lie about them, such as who they worship and what you state they insist on based on assumptions you have made that do not reflect the truth. You know this. You insist everyone else is wrong and that you are right.

I enjoy your being here as I do everyone and I enjoy back and forth but I don't enjoy low brow dogmatic fundamentalist crap of any kind. Be emblematic of the one you serve and honor him message of peace and love, forgiveness and tolerance. Remember that Jesus Christ hung out with publicans, sinners and whores (so called). He didn't spend his time haranguing them when he did. His method was far more subtle. Try to be like him.

GodSend said...

Anon 11:15 AM

I do not seek "attention".

I come here (and other places) to EXPOSE falsehoods to the Light - the Light of Holy Scripture as well as the light of reason. If I receive a counter-argument, I address it on factual and/or spiritual terms, NOT with name-calling or slander or insult.

"The Word of God is like a 2-edged sword". It is (by nature) sharp and slices and dices all worthless arguments and lies into so many slivers of garbage and deception.

DaveS said...

A parable for Mr Godsend:

There once was a man of God who lived true to the Word and had but few worldly possessions, knowing as he did the Word and knowing the God provides for all his needs.
During the rainy season there came a long and terrible rain that seemed to last forever. The man lived near a stream where it was easy for him to gather water, but his home was also in the path of a potential flood.
The man's neighbors worried about him and his safety and so they came in a pick-up and offered to move the man. He refused, knowing as he did that God would provide. He told them as much, and the neighbors drove away disappointed the man was being, as far as they were concerned, a fool.
Soon the water began to rise... soon it was covering the man's front yard and some people in a boat stopped, and pleaded with him to come with them because the water was supposed to rise even more. The man refused telling these people the same thing he told his neighbors, that God would provide.
In the night the water rose even higher, and the man was forced to the roof of his house where he was spotted by the pilot of a rescue helicopter and soon a guy was heading down on a rescue line to pull the man on the roof to safety. Imagine how surprised the rescuer was when the man refused, telling the rescuer that God would provide. The rescuer figured the man was insane, and there were other people that needed help so soon the helicopter was flying away and the man on the roof sat knowing that God would provide.
That night the water rose even higher and the man's house was destroyed. He was killed, and being the man of the Word he was, his soul went to heaven. When he arrived, he met his maker, as it were, and he was perplexed and asked as to why he wasn't saved from the floods. He'd felt he lived a righteous life and was surprised that God hadn't saved him from the flood, to which God told him that he tried.
I sent a pick-up, a boat and a helicopter... what else did I need to do?

wv;disemb... as in disembowel?

Visible said...

You do not possess the light and I and others know this. The light does not behave this way. Your arguments are ripped to shreds here and you are intolerant of other religions. You are a dogmatic fundamentalist whose dogma is in error. Like I said, behave in the manner of the one you purport to follow, not the ass stomping Hellfire burning one that you take such self righteous satisfaction in but the humble and forgiving one who is the one the rest of us recognize.

GodSend said...


I am intolerant of lies and deception - just like Jesus the Christ was! That does NOT mean that people don't have the right to believe whatever they want - after various arguments have been presented. If you insist on believing that there is such an entity as Ganesh (and others like him), be my guest.

Yes, Jesus was humble and meek in spirit BUT NOT when He was confronted by the Devil and his brood (the Sanhedrin, etc.).

The essence of true Christianity is Christ's statement:

"No one comes to the Father except through Me"

This is a matter of LIFE - or DEATH, not just some debating point on an intellectual issue! There is A LOT to be criticized about the system of 'Christianity' ('Churchianity') and I am among the first to point that out on my website and Blog.

You fabricate people's positions and lie about them, such as who they worship and what you state they insist on based on assumptions you have made that do not reflect the truth. You know this.

Not true! Give an example.

low brow dogmatic fundamentalist crap of any kind

Is this what you mean by "intelligent and civil" debate?

Pstonie said...

GodSend, I'd like to know what you think of the parts of the bible that describe in detail exactly how God likes his animal sacrifices. Do you follow it to the letter then or is there some rationalisation that you use to get around that? How do you rationalise then all the other parts of the bible that can be bent to your liking, and has surely been bent by others for their benefit?

There's also a lot more fun to be had with the bible apparently in the statistics of who's killed more, god or satan.

Have you ever tried, as a mental exercise, to imagine what it would be like to be stuck in a belief system created by superstitious humans, that survives only because one of the rules is you're not allowed to question any of it? Is the base of your adherence really that you're afraid of the consequences if you didn't? Is your life ruled by fear? Did you come here because you knew on some level that there is something useful here for you?

Am I turning into Love Your Life?

GodSend said...

Your arguments are ripped to shreds here


The typical response here is to try to rip me into shreds - NOT my arguments. YOU, Les, are a good example of that!

GodSend said...


Above all, do NOT presume to speak for others here! Give them the courtesy of speaking for themselves - even if they make an ass of themselves in the process!

Anonymous said...

Try this one on MR. I believe it was the gospel of Thomas (not in bible, one of the many gospels that was left out of the bible because it didn't fit the agenda at the Nicaean Council)that described Mary Magdalene as the wife of Jesus. Jesus had a son and daughter with Magdalene. If you recall in the bible the apostles get irate at Jesus because he kisses her on the mouth. You think he would kiss a whore on the mouth? He also wasn't kissing any other women on the mouth. The wedding at Canna was their marriage. You ever wonder why Mary Jesus's mother had so much authority at this wedding telling the servers to "do as her son instructs?" Jewish women at that time would never be so assertive, unless she was the bridegroom's mother. The compilers of the bible kind of forgot to include this point. They forgot a few other things as well.


Anonymous said...

nice story dave s,I have seen another version of that story I think it may have been in a toltec book,cant remember,good stuff anyway that'll always stir up some of them stirrings round that old campfire..neil

Origen the heretic said...

Les, thou art more tolerant than I. Please execute plan 'A'. Or do I need to write a "skip godsend" script?

@anon 6:32AM: Right on!

Rev. John

TheSparkle said...

The entertainment factor isn't so entertaining, more annoying.

A demon masquerading as a Christian.

Scat! Scat! Scat!

Origen the heretic said...

So Godsend, I'll speak for myself. What, you think you're on a mission from God to save our poor damned souls? What, you think you've got a lock on the only path to salvation? What, you think we ought to bomb them damn A-rabs back into the stone age? What, you think we have to kiss Israel's ass so God will smile on us? What, you can't overcome your altar boy brainwashing? Grow up!

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

"No one comes to the Father except through Me"

Do you not see how wrong and ignorant it is to say no one before Jesus ever went home to God?

This is, on its face, utter nonsense, ridiculous and condemns everyone who ever lived before Jesus arrived, to where? Hell? Limbo? Cleveland?

Why can't you see that "through me" means love of God? Through love of God.

C,mon man!

Anonymous said...

You know Godsend, you know that visible is close to God, everyone else here knows it so it's hard to believe you wouldn't. That's what fascinates you isn't it? You know he couldn't say the things he does with the authority he does with the inspiration flowing like a wide open tap if he wasn't close to God. A lot of people here could tell stories about what that contact has done for them and you think he's Luciferian?

You're a troubled man. You want to take the next step but you are afraid. You shouldn't be.


Anonymous said...

Oops, it's Margaret Starbird, not songbird. Her book, "The Woman with the Alabaster Jar" is very good. So is her story about how she began her research. It all started with her "questioning" the bible's account on Mary Magdalene, among other things.

Yes, Fud, I've read about the marriage of Mary Magdalene and Jesus. I've researched it, along with reading a few books of "fiction." I like Kathleen McGowan's books. Her first one, "The Expected One" starts the series. It's based on her own research, along with her own experiences. Fascinating books.


Origen the heretic said...

I attended Catholic grammar and secondary schools, and also a Catholic university. Starting in the 5th or 6th grade, I asked each catechism/religion instructor the following question(s): Given that God is omnipotent, omniscient, and all loving, how can he create a man whose ultimate destination is hell? Wouldn't it be better never to have been born? Isn't that more loving? The only two bullshit answers I received were:

(1) The man has offended an infinite being, and therefore merits infinite punishment.
(2) For those who believe there need be no explanation, and for those who don't believe, there can be no explanation.

@Godsend: What's your answer?

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

peoples,any one know anything about this meteor shower on the 12th august from constellation of perseus.neil

Rebel 4E said...

'Belief is the death of intelligence'

'The totally convinced and the totally stupid have too much in common for the resemblance to be accidental'

R A Wilson.

-One Love-

P.s. Don't feed the God's trolls

Anonymous said...

"God's authenticated Word (see Dr. Ivan Panin) makes it clear that NOTHING (not even a "tittle") is to be added, deleted or changed!
It IS what it IS! It IS written!"

Hey GodSend, you ever read the old testament? God is a pretty sadistic individual if all that was written there is true. Also, I have always had trouble understanding how God could create man knowing that many would sin and he would punish them for eternity in the fires of hell. Imagine burning for eternity if you die after pulling your root. You ever notice the pedophile priests and ministers never seem to be worried about loosing their souls? Their main concern is the judicial system. Do you have children? If possible would you condemn them to eternal damnation for some transgression? God is the creator of the universe. Go lay out under the stars some night. You know anything about astronomy, how about DNA etc. You think an entity with these creative abilities would write a book full of contradictions, fake history, genocide and what not.

Believe me, those Jews who wrote the bible stories never dreamed two thousand years later people would consider their writings the word of God.

If you ever wonder why this country is in the mess it is in go look in the mirror. The crafty Jew has pulled the wool over your eyes. Don't fret, you have lots of company.


m_astera said...

Sorry to drag this back on topic, but I'm getting bored. Thought I'd mention that I don't see a war with Iran coming on, or a nuclear false flag in the USA. Yeah sure some sociopaths would love to gin one up, but they also know they communicating would be taking quite a chance. Millions of people worldwide are aware, watching, and via this internet medium which "They" may have started but cannot afford to end, simply because it has become indispensible for their own intelligence gathering, communications, and most importantly, money business.

The modus operandi of the media is to suck away people's energy by tricking them into worrying about things over which they have no control. This leaves little or no energy or time for creative action and original thought.

Keep in mind the possibility of beings who feed on fear energy and do not wish to see humanity free or progressing.

I'm pointing out a problem here, but it contains its own solution. One could choose to quit giving their time, power, and energy away and put it, instead, into creating the life they want to live. What kind of life would that be?

A.Mouser said...

Get right with God yourself.
Then come back and share the truth and the love you experience here.
There is never too much love in the world.
'Be the change you want to see in the world.'

Origen the heretic said...

Yo Neil!

Sorry, don't know anything about this one, but back 1966 or 1967, it was the most spectacular thing I've ever seen in my life. There were hundreds if not thousands every minute, and this was under city lights. I've seen it a couple times since then with no light pollution, and it's been ho-hum.

Rev. John

TheSparkle said...

Neil, it happens every year, the Perseid meteor shower, among many other 'scheduled' predictable ones. I'm not aware of anything special this year. Maybe it will be a good show. They are already appearing, though the peak is a not until next week. Have a look here:

Anonymouser said...

"...Jesus Christ, who fashioned from the sheer love of his own heart every immortal soul, came into this world not to establish a new religion, but to abolish dogma once and for all time. He came to set us free from the slavery of our own egotistical machinations.

He gave each and every one of us a choice, and, being your dad, he is not particularly offended as to whether you stupidly choose to call yourself a Christian, Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Materialist, Atheist, Agnostic or a Big Orange Bunny. You're his kids, all screaming for different flavours of the same ice cream.

He'll never desert you. For those who are last in the queue shall be served first. Be patient, and a world that brims to the full with justice ­ a world that sees the money lenders and parasitic elites do daily penance for their crimes against humanity ­ will be yours.

For this much is true: Whether you are homeless and begging on the streets for your subsistence, living in terror of losing your job, infirm and unable to pay for your medical expenses, lonely and depressed, heartbroken and estranged from a world you no longer recognise as your natural home (which it isn't), know this: You are not alone. For no man found himself more alone than your Father, who died in the flesh in order to blaze a safe trail of freedom for you in your heart. If only you would search and find it.

No matter who you are, and regardless of your cultural or religious disposition, you are lucky to be alive, right now, right here.

You were born into this world with the God-given right to freedom and liberty. You forgot and grew fat, or half-starved, on Mammon: consumerism, big government, television, corporatism, public 'education', usury, personal greed, the illusion of democracy, and established religion. Now, whether rich or poor, something inside of you troubles you greatly.

Take a good look at yourself in the mirror. Look deep beyond the eyes you see in the reflection, and ask yourself: "Is there anybody in there?"

There'll be no answer. Not at first. But persist. Do this every day.

After a while, you'll begin to notice that the "anybody in there" is beginning to show you a world completely estranged from the one you thought, and were conditioned, to know. You'll begin to read between the headlines set by the government-controlled media and discern an inkling of what really is happening in the world. You'll laugh at all the lies the mainstream media is telling you and even rejoice at its bumbling attempts to obscure the truth.

Now you are free.

Reveal the same unto to your fellow captives, and prophecy is fulfilled. This is the meaning of scripture.

It's up to you, and you alone."


Mike James, ...prays for a free and independent England, shorn of all alliances with the EU, UK, NATO, the UN, WTO, IMF, Israel and any other treacherous international cabal or entity.


European American said...

I think what Les is so delicately suggesting to you Godsend, at least how I interpret it, "Practice what you preach."

If you truly wish to spread the Light, then uplift and inspire we the readers of your posts. You obviously have a message that is very important to you, that you want to share, and if you desire others to receive the goods, then practice what your teacher has enabled you to experience, if indeed that is truly the case. If your delivery lacks love and compassion, then maybe your understanding of his teachings is only understood theoretically but not experientially. Without the two working together one will never truly "own" the knowledge.

It's easy to hide behind the keyboard and pretend to be something you might not be. If your intention is to spread the "Word" then for Godsake, accomplish your goal with dignity and love. Don't dance around claiming to be a "Godsend" because that would be hypocritical and condescending. Snap out of it while Les is giving you every opportunity to be a learned man. Show us really what a "christian" is capable of Being.

We all have our moments but time is growing short.

And be very careful, this blog is a veritable "mind" field. There are many savvy posters here who are quite capable of ferreting out and exposing the real from the unreal. None of us are immune.

As a wise man once said:

"It has been the misfortune of every teacher that, while he speaks from his level of consciousness, his followers can only receive his message on their level: and (after the teacher has departed) the gulf between the teaching and understanding grows wider with time." MMY

FromBeyondOmega said...

Both despite and because of tumults stirred up by religious tales - our ensuing beliefs and reasonings thereof - we are given cause and means of examining ourselves, and thereby begin seeing what and why we are.

Of course, such discovery requires willingness to put aside differences and beginning from where we are - not from where we've been indoctrinated to believe we are.

For those of this tumult-oriented world who are interested in learning to share common ground and purpose - is it not logical to put aside beliefs and begin focusing on where we're at, and from there proceed toward discovering what and why we are, and thereby start doing something other than aimlessly arguing our conflicting and conflicted perspectives?

The above is but a suggestion, premised on this writer's perspective, which sees all of us here at LV's now splendidly heady & hearty manifold forum headed toward an otherwise eventual state of insoluble impasse, which will inevitably terminate in futility and boredom. Either that, or something else is going to have to come along and save us from ourselves.

Just a perspective to consider, nothing more.

Anonymous said...

RE: GodSend

I'm in a way coming to his defense. If you actually LOOK at his sight, he is not a fundamentalist Christian. You will find references to all kinds of things that are not "fundementalist". He references all kinds of things, mainly the Lizzies, that are not fundi christian beliefs. I see people trying to put him in a box.....and if you look at what he has to say, is not what you make him out to be.
Yes, he has a coredown belief in what he says, but don't we all? I see a bunch of people here jumping on the bandwagon just to bash fundies. If I were a fundie and I read his sight....awww hell.....I would let him have it. How many of you have actually read what he has to say?

Anonymous said...

and by the way..he speaks the truth about Israel...isn't that some kind of prerequisite?

Anonymous said...

Who told you there was only one heaven? Are his credentials that much better than mine?

If there are many mansions then there must be many heavens. It seems obvious to me you would not end up in a very bright spot of the mansion portfolio you would hold the class back on their next journey. Unlike you I wish the best for you and do not wish to see you tossed into the fire just for being stupid. There must a heaven for slow learners also.

I don't have this terrifying fear of God you seem to have. He/she has always been fair to me and I have great confidence in their judgement. It is your deity yahweh that scares me. Now this boy makes hell raiser II seem tame. _________________
Les somebody mention over at Kenny;s they were having script trouble with the site. This is the quote.

"Hi DublinMick & LesVis - just to let you know that,as with Kenny here, any attempts to open good communications with your sites entails interminable cyber-attacks from Herzliya. Not surprising when you know who owns Blogger!

Good luck as we reach Tipping Point..."

kikz said...

sparkle, i definitely enjoyed what i did get to preview on googlebooks..

again, many thx for the recommend :)

Anonymous said...

Hi Rev. John,

I liked what you said about God and your questions when you were younger. I think that, if there is a God, then God is either all-powerful or all-good but cannot be both.

E Vero

Origen the heretic said...

Say Les, I may have been a little premature in requesting 'plan A'. I'd like to get an answer from Godsend. But of course he doesn't have one. No doubt he's got some dogma, but nothing that can answer logic "the bible tells him so". I hope you haven't cut him off yet. If he wants some arguments, I like a lot of other people here can give him a tub full. One may be wrong, but one assumes he's definitely into Scofield. The burning question here is, is he a pre or post millennialist? Shit, I'm sorry. It's just too easy.

Rev. John

GodSend said...

Rev. John

Man's ultimate destination only is Hell if he chooses Hell over Heaven.
It's a personal choice.

"For God so loved the world (us) that He gave His only begotten Son, so that all who believe in Him shall not perish but have everlasting Life."

God gave Man the gift of choice. He could have made us all robots and then we would all end up in Heaven. Man is the pinnacle of God's Creation. He wants us to love Him because He deserves our love, not because He can MAKE us love Him.

"Eye has not seen nor ear heard the things which God has prepared for those who love Him."

God wants us to be sons and daughters with all that implies. What more could we possibly expect from the Creator of the universe and our Heavenly Father?! In order to exist in His presence, we must be flawless, like a perfect diamond. There is only ONE way to be purified and made perfect - through the forgiving power of Christ's shed blood. If there were a another way, God would have thought of it and made it available to us. That's why Christ said:

"No one comes to the Father except through Me".

There is NO FLAW in God's plan for humanity! We choose our own eternal destiny - with God's Grace (Love), of course.

"Seek - and you WILL find."

"Knock - and it WILL be opened to you."

God WANTS to save as many people as possible! The (abominable) thing that MUST be sacrificed is human Pride (SELF) and arrogant independence from the ONE God Who created all of us.

God's invitation is open to all who have heard the Gospel. What happens to those who have not heard the Gospel is none of our business - it is God's business, alone!

Can you understand all of that?

Origen the heretic said...

Whoops! Forgot to add this to my last post: No one here has mentioned it yet (mayhap y'all got more class than I do), but where does this handle Godsend come from? Is this a case of religious megalomania? Shit, I'm sorry again. But it is too freakin' easy.

Rev. John

GodSend said...


You know Godsend, you know that visible is close to God, everyone else here knows it so it's hard to believe you wouldn't.

I know no such thing! I don't know what everyone else here knows about Les' closeness to God. I know that Les professes to believe in Hinduism, which puts him about as far away from God as is possible, IMO (it's in the other direction from atheism). Hinduism is a fantasy world - totally unlike Christianity, which is based on substantial evidence of Christ's earthly existence, for starters. Then there is God's Word, which is God-authenticated, unlike any Hindu scripture I know of.

So, even though Les writes eloquently and with deep insight into world events (and I agree with a lot of what he writes), that does NOT make him "close to God". The Devil is quite an eloquent character (fallen angel of light) and VERY deceptive!

I want to "take the next step" but am "afraid"? The next step to where? Why? Afraid of what? Do you always speak in riddles? Are you R. - the Riddler?

Get real!

Anonymous said...

Mama Mia! What fucking heavy duty quasi-something-who-knows-what!

With the end of the world just around the bend, I guess it's understandable.

Phil Klein

Anonymous said...


Your little story is a perfect and simple way of driving home a point that I have been trying to make for years now with my beloved eldest daughter, who is an avowed Jehovah's Witness, believing that no matter what, Jehovah "WILL" take care of the believing, come hell or high water.

I will send it to her in an email, so that she may read it tomorrow early Sunday morning, before she goes to the "Kingdom Hall" for next lesson.

I particularly like the last phrase in this simple anecdote.

Yours and others' work is much appreciated....

R. Zuercher

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Anonymous said...

Rev. John asked Godsend for an answer....
huh-huh-huh, well I gots yer answer right here buddy, huh-huh, paybacks a bitch ain't it? huh-huh-huh! think of them Japs in dubya-dubya 2, huh-huh-huh, that'll learn ya'...ya' yeller bastard!

anyway, maybe God will one day sing to us.

and after all
you're not what you thought you were at all
you're just a natural fact
another cul de sac
on natures hard unfeeling path.

tired and pissed-off right now

Chiron said...

"Just for the record, Jesus the Christ said:

"I AM the Alpha and the Omega" (the Beginning and the End).

When speaking of the "Divine", it's more accurate to speak of God, the Father; God, the Son; and God, the Holy Spirit.

Any talk of the "Divine" outside those limits (as defined in Holy Scripture), is human imagination and 'creativity', GONE WILD! God's authenticated Word (see Dr. Ivan Panin) makes it clear that NOTHING (not even a "tittle") is to be added, deleted or changed!

It IS what it IS! It IS written!"

What it is is not what is written. There is not enough ink in the world to describe the Infinite.

Without internal experience, mental exercises by themselves turn into dogma. This leads to degeneration and rigidity instead of perfection and liberation.

Why don't you quote to us some of the newly discovered gnostic gospels. What you claim to be "God's Word" has been added to, deleted and changed. Whereas the real Word cannot be changed, because it is internal and the whole creation rests on it (ie. its not a book).

The Alpha and Omega has been here, is here and will be here long after all languages and the whole universe has dissapeared. You think the ineffable cares how you call Her?

Silly human.

Chiron said...

Oh and by the way, the life in an insect is Holier than the dead pages you are waving in front of yourself.

veritas6464 said...

Hey Les,...What is with you people? Do you think that arguing semantics of dogma and the one-upmanship of religiosity will save you from the coming confrontations?


What sort of soft-cock loser would state this? – “…I cannot patronize on a regular basis any site that does not link smoking mirrors.”


Further to this, from another site: “I am happy to give up my liberty for freedom.”

The two people that wrote these words are unmitigated fuckwits!

They deserve neither freedom nor an uncensored internet facility.

I value the freedom to visit Smoking Mirrors and Petri Dish or any other site I desire to like only an innocent man that has been incarcerated illegally, can!

The majority of arguments that have become de rigueur on Les’s sites are neither enlightened nor are they helpful.

For those of us that are allegedly aware of TPTB and its intention to take-over the world completely; arguing on moot points of irrelevance has them giggling and high-fiving!

Can we please get back to reasoned exchanges of passionate erudition based upon our learned knowledge and do away with this tabloid FUCKING NONSENSE!?

(arguments, like shit; happens - grin)

The precious salving waters of these Oases ('Oasis' plural: For the children of a lesser g-d; hah ha..) of Les's have been poisoned by sycophants and flaming trolls;

Brother visible…


Origen the heretic said...

Well, I'll make this the last post on this off topic topic. If there is such a thing as hell, then God is obviously a sadist. I personally don't believe God is a sadist, therefore I don't believe in hell except for temporary ones you make for yourself (temporary might be a lifetime). I don't care if the victim chooses it or not. If it's an option, some people are going to choose it. Sort of like that drunk in the UK that jumped out of a 6th story window and then went back up and did it again.

But you didn't answer the question. This all powerful, all loving, all knowing creator makes creatures so that they can spend an eternity in torment? You think it's better to spend an eternity in hell than to never have existed? So sorry, you can't have all the above. If you would have your hell, then at least one of those three attributes of the creator must vanish. Like maybe God can't see the future even though he created time. He's shooting craps again. Doesn't sound likely to me.

Or maybe God ain't so all powerful and his creation got out of hand and he can't fix it. Oh dear! My critters are going to this hell I didn't mean to create and I can't stop it! Doesn't sound very likely either.

Or he's not real big on love and doesn't give a shit what happens to his creatures. If so, he's a sadist. Doesn't sound likely to me. You apparently think that the bible is the one and only source of God's word. Sorry, that just ain't so. It was written by men, compiled by men, translated by men and edited by men, some of whom were obviously evil, esp. regarding the old testament. If you want God's word, try looking at the stars at night, or even take a close look at the grass under your feet. "Lift up a rock and I am there." (Essene Gospel -- recommended reading.) And if you'd like to find God before you die, look within yourself, he's there. "Knock and it shall be opened."

Last but not least, I owe you an apology for saying, "What, you think we should kiss Israel's ass so God will smile on us?" Evidently, you seem to have a clue about the Zids. I would ask you to remember that these same Zids (philosophically speaking) wrote the old testament. And yes, I understand all that, I just don't buy it. There are at least as many paths to salvation as God has creatures. Mine appears to be a long and tortured one. But what the hell, we all get there eventually, even Satan. This wouldn't be much of a show without Satan. Ya gotta have an antagonist for your protagonist.

WW III. WW III. Back on topic mow.

Rev. John

Origen the heretic said...

Well, I'll make this the last post on this off topic topic. If there is such a thing as hell, then God is obviously a sadist. I personally don't believe God is a sadist, therefore I don't believe in hell except for temporary ones you make for yourself (temporary might be a lifetime). I don't care if the victim chooses it or not. If it's an option, some people are going to choose it. Sort of like that drunk in the UK that jumped out of a 6th story window and then went back up and did it again.

But you didn't answer the question. This all powerful, all loving, all knowing creator makes creatures so that they can spend an eternity in torment? You think it's better to spend an eternity in hell than to never have existed? So sorry, you can't have all the above. If you would have your hell, then at least one of those three attributes of the creator must vanish. Like maybe God can't see the future even though he created time. He's shooting craps again. Doesn't sound likely to me.

Or maybe God ain't so all powerful and his creation got out of hand and he can't fix it. Oh dear! My critters are going to this hell I didn't mean to create and I can't stop it! Doesn't sound very likely either.

Origen the heretic said...

Or he's not real big on love and doesn't give a shit what happens to his creatures. If so, he's a sadist. Doesn't sound likely to me. You apparently think that the bible is the one and only source of God's word. Sorry, that just ain't so. It was written by men, compiled by men, translated by men and edited by men, some of whom were obviously evil, esp. regarding the old testament. If you want God's word, try looking at the stars at night, or even take a close look at the grass under your feet. "Lift up a rock and I am there." (Essene Gospel -- recommended reading.) And if you'd like to find God before you die, look within yourself, he's there. "Knock and it shall be opened."

Last but not least, I owe you an apology for saying, "What, you think we should kiss Israel's ass so God will smile on us?" Evidently, you seem to have a clue about the Zids. I would ask you to remember that these same Zids (philosophically speaking) wrote the old testament. And yes, I understand all that, I just don't buy it. There are at least as many paths to salvation as God has creatures. Mine appears to be a long and tortured one. But what the hell, we all get there eventually, even Satan. This wouldn't be much of a show without Satan. Ya gotta have an antagonist for your protagonist.

WW III. WW III. Back on topic mow.

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

cheers origen and sparkle and the rest of the peoples,what would it mean on an astrological point of view with these cardinal cross's and stuff
and are their any interpretations from the hindu and the mayan point of star patterns and stuff..neil

charmian said...


You said: "Sorry to drag this back on topic, but I'm getting bored.", finger-pointing, schism-making speeches are decidedly boring.

Repetitiously so.




Them and Us.

Is any difference between yet another earthly war and the one we are witnessing right here...

So methinks the prophets are correct in predicting that what will "rock the world" isn't of this world at all.


GodSend said...

A final word about Hell (and what it means to choose it):

Hell is eternal separation from God - while aware of His (Light, Love) existence. Christ experienced that, for a short time, for us! It is an agony which we will NEVER have to experience, IF we so choose - Thanks to Him and Thanks to God, our Father!

That thought and prospect is the most terrifying thought and prospect imaginable. DON'T GO THERE!!!

Anonymous said...

Hello Les, another great post..To godsend I say you are stuck in an experiential loop and will end up on level 25 or 26 of the astral the rest of my brothers and sisters, I will meet you all on level 27 at the park or the library. To godsend I recommend two hits of acid and I'll see you in the morning... Love Peace out...Terrance

Anonymous said...

I think GodSend was the one that came to my door a couple of days ago. He invited me to his church. We had a spirited discussion, kind of like what is going on here. It was like talking to a fence post. Nothing was accomplished. Waste of time. I think you were right Les when you said you would boot him. He has taken up a lot of bandwidth. As some have said, there is much more important things to talk about. He is no different than a troll. The next troll might get us discussing the NFL or American Idol. Maybe he is one of those crafty Jews we talk about. Anyhow you and most of the commentators around here know what is in the bible and can rip the fundies to shreds. It was entertaining but counterproductive.


TheSparkle said...

Rebel 4E, that's a funny song.

Dublin Mick: Have you read 'The Babyonian Woe' (1975) by David Astle? It's available online and goes quite into depth about the kingship you mention which was upon the earth at one time and how it was subverted, co-opted etc. It's a great book. I bought an original out of print copy after reading it online.

Godsend, get out of the corner, take off the dunce cap, and put on your Devo Energy Dome.

Neil, I have no idea about the metor shower and its significance astrologically. I hope I get to see some of the pretty fireballs though.

TheSparkle said...

DublinMick, that book I mentioned...I think you led me to it. It was in one of Kaminsky's articles that I believe you quoted or linked in one of Les's blogs.

Anonymous said...

GodSend, 7:57 PM

A chink in the armour mate, I'm pleased.

'...even though Les writes eloquently and with deep insight into world events (and I agree with a lot of what he writes), that does NOT make him "close to God".'

I would agree but I firmly believe that God is close to Les.


FromBeyonOmega said...

This is an indictment not of GodSend's Divine spirit, but of the Satanic influences that thoroughly infect GodSend's brain and disorient his mind; which Satanic influences will from here forward be collectively addressed simply as Satan.

Dear Satan:

As we both know, God has sent your work to us in the name of GodSend, so that we might see and know that YOU - NOT the mere physical body and living spirit of the otherwise good and innocent man whom you've caused to name himself GodSend - are God's instrument of devious thinking whose words are laced with good & bad.

You say "Man's ultimate destination only is Hell if he chooses Hell over Heaven." In fact, as you know, personal choice has nothing to do with either hell or heaven. Hell is exclusively your destination, not humankind's. Heaven is humankind's destination, of which all will have it once you are thrown into the bottomless pit, the day of which comes soon.

You say, "God wants us to be sons and daughters with all that implies." Instead, from the beginning all human kind have been God's sons and daughters, whereas because of your evil works most of God's children truly know neither their heavenly Father NOR their heavenly MOTHER.

You say, "There is only ONE way to be purified and made perfect - through the forgiving power of Christ's shed blood." The truth is that spilled blood is spilled blood - nothing more. One is made purified, perfect and free exclusively by knowing the truth; which - as you know - does not issue forth from mouths connected to your deceived subjects' brains.

You say, "...Hinduism [is] about as far away from God as is possible, IMO (it's in the other direction from atheism)...a fantasy world - totally unlike Christianity, which is based on substantial evidence of Christ's earthly existence,... Then there is God's Word, which is God-authenticated, unlike any Hindu scripture I know of." Again, just another example of your lies that reduce good information to nonsense. Hinduism, the Vedas, Bhagavad Gita... all are produced of God, no different than any other work of man devoted to bringing humankind into oneness with God via knowledge of God. Moreover, Jesus is recognized by all knowledgeable Hindus as the Divine's Avatar of love, along with his having been tutored in Hinduism. But then your mission is to have humankind not be properly informed, thus keeping humankind divided against itself as is readily evinced by your words to us in GodSend's name.

So yes, it is exactly as true as you have had GodSend say of you:

"The Devil is quite an eloquent character (fallen angel of light) and VERY deceptive!"

Anonymous said...


What is Ivan Panin a doctor *of*? My research indicates that he graduated from Harvard University in1882 with a BA, not a doctoral degree .
I wonder if he was aware that gematria was a commonly employed device in ancient esoteric texts? The Hebrews and Greeks were particularly fond of it. True believers have discovered similar correspondences in the torah and in the quran.
And doesn't the bible caution xtians against dabbling in occult knowledge?

GodSend said...

Origen the heretic said...

Russian drought + Pak floods = HAARP prep for Iran war crime?

Rev. John

Anonymous said...

Sparkle I have read part of the Babylonian woe as I ran across it reading Kaminski myself. It indicates exactly what you referred to also as far as a campaign of infiltration and I had people indicate to me that is what is recognized also in many eastern temples so I am on board with that particular concept.

"What sort of soft-cock loser would state this? – “…I cannot patronize on a regular basis any site that does not link smoking mirrors.”

Veritas I try not to further embarrass you as long as you don't become a nuisance. That comment was meant as a form of levity but I am not surprised it went right over your sloped head.

Shouldn't you be loading up your templars in the boats by now and heading for mideast to bring smoke on the khazars, as that is all you ever babble about. Quit talking and do something! You sound like some skinhead from the Jones site massaging their reloading equipment. Oops sorry that can't be right either, as you have all been disarmed down south. Well bring your swords along.

You are dismissed!

Anonymous said...

Oh and Veritas should you choose to reply please use English so we can all understand you as opposed to the street thug rap cadence you have doing such a poor imitation of lately.

Anonymous said...

wild old woken
chanting flow
in rising beams
of risen glow
inner shifting
feather lift
lightning thunder
bolting swift
living truth
charging pound
rumble shaken
connecting ground
learning peace
birds in flock
by learning tree
on thinking rock.


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