Friday, October 02, 2009

The Greco-Roman Polanski Method

Dog Poet Transmitting.......

I’ve never had much attraction for Whoopi Goldberg. I never found her funny or talented except in the way certain overblown characters mock their humanity. Whatever it would take for a person to be willing to appear on Hollywood Squares would be enough to guarantee that we would never meet except by unfortunate accident.

Whoopee says that it wasn’t “rape, rape” and "All I'm trying to get you to understand is when we're talking about what someone did and what they were charged with.” She also said something about how they look at things differently in Hollywood. I can’t recall the exact quote and I don’t want to go looking for it because her picture might come up again and I don’t want to go through that twice in one morning.

I read the grand jury testimony so I know what Polanski did. In the process of a photo shoot he managed to finally get her naked in a hot tub. Then he relocated her to a room and performed oral sex on her. Then he penetrated her against her will which had been compromised by a Quaalude he gave her. I’m familiar with what Quaaludes do. They were very available at one time. Then, he penetrated her anally. Here’s the point where serious outrage can make an appearance but anywhere along the route will do.

During the course of the legal process, he paid the girl off and his pricey lawyers did what they were hired to do and cut a deal with the judge. Apparently the judge backed off on the deal and it looked like Mr. Repulsion was going to prison so he did a Houdini to the old country where he’s been plying his trade and living among his peers in various locations. He went to Switzerland to accept an award and he got arrested which is where he is now. I’m less than a hundred kilometers from where he is at this very moment.

I lived in Hollywood for awhile. I knew some people and that was an in for all kinds of things; meaning I got to got to certain parties and the upstairs rooms at certain clubs. That’s not a big deal. All sorts of people know people and some of them aren’t even people. Hollywood is one of the centers of psychopathy on the planet; like D.C. and NYC and anywhere that large populations congregate to grant a larger selection of victims. In Hollywood, the money men run the place. Anything goes depending on who you are and I mean ‘anything’. Thirteen year old girls and boys are as available as after dinner mints; younger ones too.

Satanism and its sister cult, Scientology are very big and very powerful. There are some heavy players in the satanic subculture. You won’t have heard about them because they really do keep a low profile. They celebrate the four low Holy Days in grand style. Ritual murder happens and that’s just the way it is. Normal people can’t grasp what some of these people get up to. It’s another order of thinking.

As a writer and a cultural anthropologist, I have more than a natural curiosity about things. I’ve also got a great deal of caution when it comes to things like this. I wanted to know about certain things but I didn’t want that to be known so it’s a slippery shelf.

When you’ve got a certain kind of ‘in’ in Hollywood you can run into just about anyone. Ancient celebrities, the up and comers and all of those who make their money being around them are ubiquitous. Where I lived, I could look down on Milton Berle’s pool. I was on a street called Wolf Drive, if I remember correctly. Other times I lived in the heart of Hollywood. The strangest people in the world are there and you see them every day. You see young children selling themselves on the street. Not much gets done about any of it. There’s a huge brooding demon that squats over the whole town. I’ve seen him.

So when Whoopee says things are different there you may rely on that being true. There’s no moral compass whatsoever. It’s the most natural thing in the world for people to screw each other over on a routine basis. It’s the way things get done. The surprise in the Polanski matter is that it ever came to light in the first place. These things are usually handled discreetly. They happen every day there. Parents know what’s happening and many of them willingly offer their kids because of the possibility of fame and fortune.

Six months was all I could take of the place, although I came and went over the years at brief interludes. I’m not going to name drop. It would serve no purpose. Their world is not my world. My world these days is pretty much me and the dogs and my consort and her mother. I might not speak to another person- except whatever salutations are exchanged at the check out counter or the cash register- for long periods of time. I don’t really have anything to say to anyone because whatever interests me does not interest others most of the time. I had the good fortune to receive a visit from a reader recently and that was wonderful. It had been nearly a year since the last time this happened. I’m a recluse and I like it just fine.

I’ve seen the world that Polanski moves in over here. I’ve been to St. Tropez and other places. I’ve seen the enormous yachts and the glitterati glittering about. I’ve never seen people take themselves so seriously. They love their importance among their fellows and, like in Hollywood, they scheme together. They look for the angles. They set out after each others husbands and wives. Scammers move among them like barracuda around a reef. When you don’t want anything from anybody you see things that others can’t see because their vision is compromised by their desires.

I don’t know what to think about Polanski getting arrested. I don’t care much one way or the other. He’s into dark things, this I know, so... who knows exactly what brought him to this pass? I do believe in Karma and that’s what we have here. I also am aware that this is The Apocalypse, more rather an apocalypse and things happen at these times that don’t happen at other times. All sorts of people are being exposed and destroyed in various ways. There’s a force of judgment loose and it’s going about ...passing judgment. It’s going to increase as time passes and there are going to be some big surprises.

I hear from a lot of people who tell me that the reptiles and other soulless husks have got everything sewn up. I see people imagining all kinds of things. The fact is that nobody knows what’s coming, including the people who think they’re running the show. They are not running the show. They are mere object lessons. They are being manipulated by a force that cares less about them than they do about their victims. They are in hard hands with no mercy on the horizon. Polanski and his apologists are just more of the deluded who demand one standard for themselves and another for everyone else.

Young girls and boys are simply party favors at the grand buffet, where the high steppers strut their arrogant disregard for the restraints that their lessers are confined by. They think the party is going to go on forever but that is not the case.

Someone wrote to me this morning to tell me that I can’t be very aware and awake if I don’t know that ‘all’ the natural disasters are being caused by the illuminati. That’s ridiculous. I don’t doubt that they are up to things like this but there are a number of things happening simultaneously and the only connection between them is the times in which they occur. We are at a certain point on the cosmic clock. You can think of the cosmic clock as a three dimensional item where planets are passing in relation to each other through a continuum.

When the auto was invented there were a number of people working independently on producing a car. The same goes for most things that appear in this world. Certain forces rule at certain times. Civilization, if you can call it that, has reached a nexus and things are going to be shaken up. There’s a purpose to it all and a dynamic. All kinds of things are going to happen; are happening.

I believe in a greater good. I do not believe in the world of appearances that give power to temporary things. I am convinced that everything is under control and not by the fools who imagine it is them who hold the reins. Grant yourself the freedom to be confident no matter how things look and your fortune will follow suit.


End Transmission.......

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37 comments:

R4E said...

"Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right in the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon your gonna be dead"

"What in the world you thinking of?
Laughing in the face of love
What on Earth you try'na do?
It's up to you
Yeah, you"

"Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna hit you right in the face
You better get yourself together darling
Join the human race"

"How in the world you gonna see?
Laughing at fools like me
Who on Earth d'you think you are?
A superstar?
Well, right you are"

"And we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well, we all shine on
Everyone, c'mon"

-John Lennon-

'Everything is under control'
Damn Right!!

Respects, (o__O)

William Wilson said...

Hi Les- So THAT was the invisible reason for the bad vibe I'd get when I'd drive to Hollywood.
Long Beach and Orange County have different brands of weirdness, but Hollywood I didn't like. Too New York-ized for want of a better term.

Good poetic imagery you give

William Wilson said...

Hi Les, should've added this. A close competitor to the "Hollywood bad vibe" in terms of unpleasantness is the "new car dealership bad vibe"
. Last time I went to a dealership I could practically wring the grasping greed and fear out of the air. Not pleasant.
I think a few things which saved Long Beach from having Hollywood level bad vibes was partly the water, the good influence of people visiting the ocean, and the religious aspirations of many of the residents. Even though much of Long Beach was gang-land, even it's slums didn't give the bad, weird impression parts of Hollwood did

Thosewecannot said...

Roman Polanski does not sound like a very nice man. Nevertheless his choice of Natasia Kinsky as Tess was perfect. A beautiful film.
Taken together we get a perfect example of one of the many contradictions which exist in the world.

Patrick said...

Many years ago I was a drummer in a rock band. We were having moderate local success when some people from Vegas came to see us. They wanted us to come to Vegas and play and they were going to make us successful. Everyone in the band was excited but me. I had a bad vibe about it all. I saw us becoming tools and fools so I quit the band. I miss the music but still feel to this day that I averted something evil.

I feel that where people accumulate in large numbers, such as cities, the dark side seems to thrive and breed. It may be the lack of connection to nature. When in big cities I feel the darkness, when around big money I feel the darkness and when I am around a TV I feel the darkness. I haven't had one of those electronic hypno machines in a long time.

I am out of the loop when it comes to the sewage of MSM that I don't even know who this Polanski pile of sh*t is. Just glad that Karma has found him. I agree totally with you Les, many more will be getting that on the shoulder by the cloaked man Karma. There will be no hiding from him, he comes from within.

How long you going to be south Les?

Patrick (Amicus for life!)

nina said...

The fall of the Roman empire, rooted in orgy, succumbed to self-flattery in the NWO where Swiss banking has been forced to give it all up.
In the NWO everyone is made a fool. It is a requirement of these times you remain seated while your sweat labor bonuses the overbonused, here, there and everywhere. In this way, you'll observe blackmail extend its dirty hands into the long past. In the Court of Compromise, ignorance of the antichrist is the greatest crime of them all.
The list of those who are negligent of these facts is long and growing. Geeze, Cat Stevens coulda told him so, but he's busy resurrecting in voiceovers.
You're either with the terrorists or you're with us takes on newer and greater meaning by the day.

Greg Bacon said...

I recall reading something about Whoopi years ago that said her career wasn't going anywhere till she changed her last name to 'Goldberg.'

Looks like the bill has come due.

What is a soul going for these days and is the Federal Reserve the only one with enough money to buy one?

Anonymous said...

In the history of the last 5000 years on planet earth, I suspect the polaroid was the greatest boon of all time ever to the pathocracy. Is there anything that's goin' on in this so-called civilization that ain't connected to nekked pitchers, peep-hole videos or snuff films? Just wondering....

ps- I took my first acid trip (feb.'67) 3 blocks from jollywood & vine [hee hee]. Quick and easy way. Got it?

respects,
bholanath

Susan said...

Hi Les,

I've been reading you blogs for some time now and just wanted to say thank you for being forward and enlightning. Some of us just made it to the path of truth, and we sure have a lot to learn.

Anonymous said...

In regards to the comment about the fall of the roman empire there were a number of influences that led to the fall but if you want to put a name and time it would have to be Emperor Valens and the time was the late 4th century. Instead of welcoming the Visagoths into their empire the Romans treated them with disdain, in modern terms it may be called racism. It was the loss at Adrianople to these looked down upon goths that broke the image of Rome. Rome as an idea and that idea started to lose air like a balloon with a hole in it.

Today, the idea that was the United States is just as shattered. We may have this huge military industrial complex but we are as doomed as Rome. The idea that was america is gone. The world now knows that we are sick and evil as any previous empire and our days are numbered. Rome had Valens and we have Bush. Granted they are not the sole reasons for the fall but they were the catalyst, the keystone, for the fall of empires.

Whether you are a parent, a boss, a leader of any form, when you lose honor and respect you have lost it all. It may take time but the outcome is inevitable.

If there were honor and intelligence at the top they would pull back from these wars of conquest and start to rebuild and remake a country. This will not be. We will not look into the mirror as a country and a society and see the evil that we have become bu twill struggle against the odds to hold onto what can not be held, we will become more frantic and dangerous.

Greed is the poison pill that leads to the death of empires. All of the other poisons come from the infection started by greed.

We are going to be reduced to a world of small communities once again after what is coming does what it needs to do. If one wants to be ahead of the game, that is the place to start, community.

Love, peace, and hope

amicus

Anonymous said...

Amicus 12:24.
Good entry.
Thanks.

Dublin Mick said...

I left this one earlier but I will leave it again for any who are interested in Manson and the Laurel Canyon gang. It is long and pretty disturbing goings on for sane people anyway.

http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/

Anonymous said...

Yes, Kali is afoot - - in her true form as the destroyer of illusion. And no one is immune.

Merced Marie

Anonymous said...

Trust that your BELIEFS will never go beyond that: belief. The Rebel Angel BELIEVED he could overthrow heaven and instead, found HIMSELF removed. And the Jewish Cabala certainly teaches that what you "believe" is what will follow, but the Creator has another PURPOSE entirely.... ;-)
That Purpose is now being revealed, whether you believe (in)it or not. Of course, John was inspired to simply call it: a Revelation

Anonymous said...

Thank you for "I believe in a greater good... Grant yourself the freedom to be confident no matter how things look and your fortune will follow suit."
I'd like that for the whole planet.

AW said...

Hi,
I am a servant of the Eternal God. I do not belong to any church or sect.
I have a direct relationship with GOD through the only mediator: Jesus Christ.

My task is to warn that the time for judgment is at the door as revealed in the Book of Revelation.

Many like to pretend that the Book of Revelation does not exist,
but the reality is that it does exist, and what it says will happen

As horrific as the wrath of Satan is, it will be paled into insignificance, by the Wrath of God which follows.
Look around:
1. Wars
2. Earthquakes
3. World-wide economical
crisis
4. Swine flu
5. Terrorism
6. Etc.

The Northern Army And Its Allies Used To Punish The English Speaking World & Israel

You have been deceived.

10 Points for you to carefully consider.
1. You do not have an immortal soul, you are a soul
2. There is a spirit in man.
3. Are You Going To Heaven ? No One Is!
4. Pray over your food it might be toxic.
5. Unclean food is killing you.
6. There Will Be No New World
Order - But There Will Be A
Revival of The Roman Empire
7. The Lord's day is not Sunday.
8. The Sabbath Is Not Jewish
9. Christmas Has Nothing To Do
WithChrist
10. Easter Has Nothing To Do With
Christ

ONLY THE ONES WHO HAVE A DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE ETERNAL GOD, WHO LISTEN TO HIM, UNDERSTAND, AND OBEY HIM WILL BE SAFE!!!!!!!!
Regards
Antonietta

www.peterjamesx.com

Waterlily2012 said...

First time reader here, and I like your stuff. From what I know now, it is a good thing I gave up theater and dreams of being a famous actress, never going to LA or Hollywood, because I probably would have gotten sucked in back then. I was wild, but still hung on to some goodness, and that's a good thing now. I agree that something dark and evil is controlling Hollywood. I know it controls a lot of the planet. I find great spiritual satisfaction trying to weed through all of these things trying to find out what is going on. Reality is certainly nothing like I ever expected! I am glad to be out of the bubble and have my head away from the sand, no matter how pathetic the world seems. Hopefully the next level will be better. Thanks for the blog! keep it up!

nina said...

Hi Amicus, that was a wonderfully worded and educational post. For the record, I was speaking of the fall of filmmaker Polanski. But the part where you say greed is the poison pill that leads to the death of all empires works because self-flattery is a most common side effect of greed and thus, the knife in Roman's bathwater.
Your friend, n.

chicagomike said...

I love your stuff and your attitude. I also lived in Hollyweird, and LostWages as well. You speak the "truth" and are one with the Zeitgeist. I for one could enjoy some Roman stew or Stir-fry. The mudder bugger could use some humility and may find it in jail. Keep up the good work. I am getting old and tired so I will end my Ad-harmony attack here.

nina said...

Dear Vizzy, seeing how easily I was misinterpreted brings on a whole new series of adulations directed to you and your sense of humour. I've always liked your work, but lately I've started re-reading it several times over to get the special touches such as mink gloves. Hahahaha. Repulsion, hahahaha. Hollywood Squares, hahahahaha.
Whenever you might think those touches are for naught, remind yourself that some of us smirk them for breakfast.

Anonymous said...

Words of Advice for Young People

youtube.com/watch?v=JgLcv1mQZBg

Kevin John said...

"I believe in a greater good."

Those six words are one of the main reasons that keeps me coming back here.
You are brave and you have hope. As well as many of your guests.
I pray you are right, that this evil will be exposed soon but in regards to Amicus's eloquent post, did not some historians puzzle not of why Rome fell but how long they took to fall?
Then what, the dark ages and the rise of the "Holy Roman Church"?

Respectfully,where do you see a sign that this will end?

Anonymous said...

Les, Once again I see we have traveled the same path. I did my 6months in the "Valley Of The Shadow Of DEATH" in early 72. I arrived with $20. bucks in my pocket and at the end of the first day I gave it to a "Hype" so he could get a fix and in return I got a roof over my head for the night. Now I'm penniless and 2000 miles from home but I have to trust the Hype to get me a job tomorrow. Turns out he got me the job. In hindsight it turns out He was my gaurdian angel (no shit). For 6 months He showed me a world I'd never dreamt existed, from the Scum of the Earth to the Filthy Rich, He knew them all and took me with Him to all these places. All this time He watched my back and protected me. When I decided it was time to escape this Hell Hole, He helped me do that too. To this day that was the best $20.00 investment I've ever made. One other note of similarity, when My Spirit needs company, I head out into the country till I know We're alone, by a quiet stream off in the Timber is Good. I always return more content and confident.
Jimmy says "PEACE BROTHER"

nobody said...

Speaking of Laurel Canyon! I've always wondered at Polanski. This is the guy who made what was quite possibly THE satanist movie, Rosemary's Baby - starring Sinatra punching bag, Mia Farrow. Has everyone read Brice Taylor's book Thanks For The Memories? Sinatra was in the mind-control caper up to his eyeballs. And one way or another, I'll bet Farrow was too. She wants the US to bomb Sudan does she? Sure.

Anyway, a year after this, Polanski's pregnant wife gets cut to pieces by the Laurel Canyon scene come to life, the Manson gang. And then, to round out his satanist/mind-control links Polanski adds paedophile rape to the list.

Jesus Christ, he couldn't be any more Laurel Canyon if he tried could he?

My only confusion lays in the fact that he was apprehended at all. Mind you, I balance that against the fact that he was able to swan around the world a free man for over thirty years. A likely fucking story.

Meanwhile, let's sit tight. I have him getting nothing more than a slap on the wrist down as even money.

BTW I never liked Repulsion but Knife In The Water is a cracker.

Anonymous said...

my land camera
can buy my film, that's easy!
but not batteries

;-)

Lukiftian

Visible said...

There is a new Visible Origami up-


The Serpent in the Kunda Pool.

kikz said...

rome... uncle al had a few words on that subject, quite early in M&D.


“Yet it is this very Force of the people, this Titanic power of the giants, that builds the fortifications of tyrants, and is embodied in their armies. Hence the possibility of such tyrannies as those of which it has been said, that "Rome smells worse under Vitellius than under Sulla. Under Claudius and under Domitian there is a deformity of baseness corresponding to the ugliness of the tyranny. The foulness of the slaves is a direct result of the atrocious baseness of the despot. A miasma exhales from these crouching consciences that reflect the master; the public authorities are unclean, hearts are collapsed, consciences shrunken, souls puny. This is so under Caracalla, it is so under Commodus, it is so under Heliogabalus, while from the Roman senate, under Cæsar, there comes only the rank odor peculiar to the eagle's eyrie."
It is the force of the people that sustains all these despotisms, the basest as well as the best. That force acts through armies; and these oftener enslave than liberate. Despotism there applies the RULE. Force is the MACE of steel at the saddle-bow of the knight or of the bishop in armor. Passive obedience by force supports thrones and oligarchies, Spanish kings, and Venetian senates. Might, in an army wielded by tyranny, is the enormous sum total of utter weakness; and so Humanity wages war against Humanity, in despite of Humanity. So a people willingly submits to despot-ism, and its workmen submit to be despised, and its soldiers to be whipped; therefore it is that battles lost by a nation are often progress attained. Less glory is more liberty. When the drum is silent, reason sometimes speaks.
Tyrants use the force of the people to chain and subjugate--that is, enyoke the people. Then they plough with them as men do with oxen yoked. Thus the spirit of liberty and innovation is reduced by bayonets, and principles are struck dumb by cannon-shot; while the monks mingle with the troopers, and the Church militant and jubilant, Catholic or Puritan, sings Te Deums for victories over rebellion.
The military power, not subordinate to the civil power, again the HAMMER or MACE of FORCE, independent of the RULE, is an armed tyranny, born full-grown, as Athenè sprung from the brain of Zeus. It spawns a dynasty, and begins with Cæsar to rot into Vitellius and Commodus. At the present day it inclines to begin where formerly dynasties ended.”
pg 3, Morals & Dogma

Anonymous said...

Wave patterns.

According to some people there is hard evidence under the lions paw in Egypt, that we are headed for a major change, that I know will be for the better.

Hope springs eternal.

William G.

Anonymous said...

It's now official - there's no actual shortage of Holocaust survivors:


'The Israeli Prime Minister's office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million' (extract from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso, London and New York, 2000, p.83).

Statement by Richard Lynn, Professor Emeritus
University of Ulster, December 5, 2005:

"I've checked out the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War and the statement is quite correct - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.

Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill's Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages.
In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."

Anonymous said...

In total agreement with you about a force of retribution moving through this world. Maybe it is Kali or just our collective shadow energies but whatever it is, it is showing no mercy. I live in what used to be a paradise (long way from the US) and in just a few years, it has morphed into a hell of daily murders, road rage, paedophiles and gang warfare. I am still shellshocked. You phrased it well.There are no corners to hide, nowhere to go but within ourselves to seek some answers and light.

Visible said...

There's a new Smoking Mirrors up-


Alas Babylon and the Neanderthal Mind.

Anonymous said...

"Parents know what’s happening and many of them willingly offer their kids because of the possibility of fame and fortune."

I've tried to explain that very thing to others with no luck.

I ask: Did the little girl suddenly get a hankering to meet a famous director so she flagged a cab or drove there at night all on her own while mom & pop slept soundly in their beds?

The dead-heads that surround me simply shrug it off as of secondary importantance; similar to the maniacs who go about screaming "stop the war," but demand better equipment for the soldiers, or "stop the war" rather than "stop the invasion/occupation," or "stop the war" ... well, you get my drift. I hope.

As for the forces of good moving about passing "judgment" ... not until the announcement of the public hanging of Kissinger, Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Rice, Perle, Pelosi et al will I believe.

One film director arrested for raping a child is simply not enough.

Besides, all he'll be made to do is pay another lump of "shut up" money to the girl and her pimp mother. This makes it their second time at the Polansky trough.

I'm not condoning his actions. It's just that the whole sordid thing seems to be nothing more than a distraction.

And I do rejoice every time a jew gets caught, and caught again, for
a crime; and the level of their crimes does reach dizzying heights.

What's more than likely happening reflects infighting amongst the "elite."

I pray you're right about them being in hard and merciless hands...

Thanks for another thought-provoking and superbly written piece.

babette
911=USrael

Anonymous said...

Budapest 1962, A story of intrigue and the true nature of the matrix we call civilization . Google.....Walk fearlessly through this reality, let no one make you a slave. Eternal love , and peace to all who feel the necessity to ascend.

Thank you Les for a deeper look into shallow human endevaour which manifests itself into the expansion of ego rather than conciousness.

JBW said...

Heavy shit...the New Paradigm is gonna leave the plebes with just a pair o' dimes....bank on that...Hollyweird and DC will try to continue with biz as uzh...ain't gonna happen...all darkness will be klieg-lighted by The One for all to see some day in the not too distant futch...and we KNOW who The One Is, don't we kids...

Haywood_Zarathustra said...

Les, your commentary is great but here's a question: are you left or right handed? I notice one pic has you strumming a guitar with your right hand, another shows a younger Les with pen/pencil at the ready with your left hand. By the way, for 108, you seem quite well preserved!
Vitamin C, or what's the secret?

Dublin Mick said...

LOL verification monymen!

I saw that and as I have said I am probably much too much the sarcastic type. I was going to leave a comment but thought it best to let Visible handle it.

I was going to say something along the lines of send me your address I have the winning lottery ticket and five kilos for you. I was thinking where is mouser when you need him.

Some of these people are simply not trained well at all and stick out like a sore thumb around here. I have posted on forums before using such as shillbaiter2. We don't need all that around here.

Tyciol said...

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